Lower pricing, and 370Z support to Pro Tuners
 

:tiphat: We just dropped pricing across the board as of today October 1st 2009.

We also are announcing support for the 370Z as of today. We need to get cars here or to our Pro Tuners so we can get the ROMs dumped and patched so they can dyno tune your cars. Contact the Pro Tuners today so they can get your ROM files.

Forced induction is on the way from GTM if you haven't already heard, and it's our software they're using to make it happen. Expect some big announcements right around SEMA from Sam and the guys at GTMotorsports.


I know I'm not on the boards too often because we're so busy around here. My contact info remains the same, and our website still has links to me. If you have any questions you can talk to our Pro Tuners or give me a holler and I'll try to respond as soon as I get a chance.

Rich-

Excellent news

So does that mean they finally cracked the 370Z ECU?

Cracked it? We have had most of it reverse engineered for a while. It's a much more involved process than just that though.

GT Motorsports has been testing our software for over 2 months now with their turbo kits. We're giving that same support now to all our Pro Tuners and we expect a ton of feedback both from them and our customers. We really want to take the 370Z/G37 platform to the same level of finesse we have with the 350Z/G35 owners. I think we can help you get there and help the hard parts manufacturers bring their A games at the same time.

Rich-

Just out of curiousity, how different is the ECU for the G37 from the 370Z ECU, if any?

So how much added power could be made using your software with full bolt-ons (estamate)

Havn't gone to your website yet but what if your a non-pro tuner? Hey, I can tune cars, just don't do it for a living. Is there a "consumer" version that can be purchased and can you control cam timing?

:tiphat: .... looking forward to it's public release

you can get the Osiris tuner package for 700.00

At long last. Looking forward to seeing the results of a tuned 370Z with the UpRev stuff.

Can someone please enlighten me on what it means to have your ROM dumped and patched? I get that the tuners need to download our ROMs. But what's with the patching? Do they need to be 'fixed' in some way before they can even do the tuning?

Basically I'm marginal on some of the computer lingo trying to understand exactly what it does and how it does it too. Also... If you have an AccessPort and downloaded a tune into the ECU, how does this effect things? Lastly, no comment on the cam timing. Does it or does it not let you play with the cam timing and exactly (in lay terms) how does it work?

There are several different ECU's/ROM files for the 370Z. So basically, we need to get some more 370Z's in our shop, and dump the ECU to our laptops. We then send this file to UpRev so their engineers can build a patch to allow reflashing to occur. Once a ROM type is in the library, than any Pro Tuner can tune that specific ECU. The 350Z for instance, has well over 20 different ECU types/ROM Files that all had to be patched back in the day.

Semtex....come on down!!! Call me!

I can bring mine down, if you're interested..throw me a PM

Thanks for explaining, Sharif. I'll give you a call later today!

Damn, I would do this ASAP but I think the nearest tuner for me is actually UpRev which is 3.5 hours away.

Yep, I tend to go to Austin once a month so if I do I will give them a call so they can download my ECU. No tuning for me until my exhaust comes in later this year.

Rich,
I live about 5 min away from your shop, and can help if you need 370Z ROMs to download. I think its still to early for me to get a tune, im still short a few bolt on's right now!

OK...... So that means it is still under development. In addition, no one has addressed the cam timing aspect and by skirting the issue; the very simple obvious assumption is it also is still under development.

Someone, tell me I'm wrong.

Lastly..... why can't I do a read and send it in to Uprev if that is what they are looking for? More in their database.

Drastically different. They revamped the whole thing top to bottom to support all the new sensors and controls the motor has.

We never estimate that. Thats what bad companies do, they sell you on the idea that you'll make XX power increase. Each car is different, all we make is software to control your motor, you car will make the power it makes.

Osiris Tuner is what you're talking about.

No cam control as of yet. Need to do a ton of testing on that, we want to make sure we give solid reliable controls on it. No point in giving people the ability to brake the VVEL system, we'd rather give safe adjustments.

Honestly the stock cam control is about flawless for NA. The torque is damn near flat off idle to redline, one of the most amazing cam setups ever built and it works so well. It may help to adjust them in boosted applications, but not till we're sure we only add safe controls.

Yes we take the stock ROM file, and we add our controls to it. It's a bit more in depth than that but thats the general idea. We like to replace the ROM file with the actual ROM your car came with or the update for that ROM. Other companies use a single ROM to overwrite many ROM files. Nissan uses different ROM files for a reason and when you do it the cheap/easy way it can cause all sorts of odd problems.

Our way takes a while longer but the end results speak for themselves. Less customer issues, and the issues that do arise we resolve.

I don't use PMs, too many forums to keep up with. rich@uprev.com e-mail me and we can set up an appointment.

We can tune your car now, intakes often throw a tune off more than anything. They can change the airflow over the MAFs and create a ton of havoc with the ECU controlling the motor.

When your exhaust comes in we can re-tune your car for just the additional dyno time. We charge by the half hour on retunes, so it's rather cheap insurance making sure that your car is running safely.

Bring it by! We're usually there 10am-6pm M-F. Generally Jared is there noon to 8pm and he can dump your ROM file. We may already have it, we have some of them already, but you can stop by and check out the shop.

Performance wise, how would a 370Z with your tuned ECU be different than a stock 370Z?

Depends on the car. Tuning isn't some static deal. Each car is totally different, and each tune needs to be adjusted per car. The canned tune systems don't work as witnessed time and time again in the complaints posted in the forums.

Tuning allows you to make the motor run more efficiently. The more efficient the motor runs, the more power you make. If your car is dead to nuts accurate right now, then you gain a total of nothing. We rarely see that happen, 99.9% of cars we've tuned have made 3+hp across the rpm range, with more power being seen when there are drops in the stock curve. The more mods you make, the more potential to cause the stock tune to be out of whack and the more power gain potential you'll have.

Though some totally stock cars have made as much as 35hp gains, thats not what we're going to put on our advertisements. It's not fair to consumers to think that tuning makes that kind of power unless something is out of whack with how their car is running.

No car has ever lost power with our product. Remember we only make software allowing your car to be adjusted. We don't make power. Thats a byproduct of your motor running more efficiently. Most cars have a small bit left in them when they are totally stock. Cars with mods usually have rather large amounts of power to be made.

In fact if you look at the cost of an exhaust for the 370Z and the power it makes, vs. a full dyno tune with Osiris, you'll find that most of the time we're not just less than half the price but that you'll make more power with the tune. With the price of intakes right now we almost always win the price/performance comparison.

I'd contact one of our Pro Tuners if I was you and ask them some questions. Most of our Pro Tuners are very open and willing to explain details and work with you to plan out your mods so that you don't go doing something either very costly or totally useless. It's your money, and your car, spend wisely.

Will Do. Most likely Friday this week. I'm anxious to see what you guys have cookin.

Your def right about that, HPlogic is the closest tuner that seems to be active in the 370Z community, I should probably contact them whenever you guys finalize a tune & I buy a few more mods.

Great response! Wish a few more companies (like Stillen perhaps) was more straight forward in giving an honest answer.

Watched the video of how the Variable Valve Timing works several times and still can't figure it out. However, can you control lift via programming? Shortening cam duration will increase lower end power while increasing it will pick up on top. If the factory has duration work out, how about lift? More lift will add to the top end increase. Does the system work that way?

One last one and I'm out of here......

First, have you actually tuned one and what kind of dyno do you have? Secondary, do you see the cars respond immediately? For reasons I can't figure out using the Cobb AccessPort to tune, see the air/fuel change on the dyno wideband. However, the dyno output does nothing. What's up wud dat? Makes zero sense to me. Plus the car pulls out timing on it's own and after Cobb tuning, it pulls out more mid-range timing. Can that be corrected?

I'm in Dallas so Austin is no big whoop. Being I own an AccessPort, can I make further changes (frankly no more mod plans except gears, so unlikely) using the AccessPort after you tune the car?

Think of it as a cam on a cam system, with one of those being electronically controlled.

I have some ROMS on tap Rich....I'll give you a call....exciting news!!:tiphat:

Any 370Z owners nearby our place in Atlanta are welcome to come by. The more 370Z's who's ECU's we dump the better.

Rich, it good meeting you in TX. Guys, Uprev was kind enough to use our 370Z while it was being tracked to test the new software. We will have the car on the dyno tomorrow and we will be in constant contact with Jarred. Not really expecting major changes but the dyno time and the tune is a small price to pay for reliability.

Great news! Does this mean there will be an updated version of cipher to download that will work with the 370z?

Thanks Rich

As many of you know this already We have been using Uprev exclusivity for our turbo kit from 350z to the G37 and now the 370Z . This product works and works well so this is good news for every one .

And stay tuned for our GTM staged power packages for our upcoming supercharger kit for the 370Z .

And let the fun begin

Sam

Hey john, When are going to stop messing around and twin turbo Your shop 370Z:D

Sam