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Uprev 10-15-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 232118)
can i get a pm from you, i would like to discuss further...

All PM's are turned off on forums. We have e-mail and a phone number listed.


Rich-

theDreamer 10-15-2009 11:47 AM

On the email thing, Uprev is very good with response. I will email in the morning and have something by the afternoon, hoping to stop by when in Austin this weekend and meet some of you guys.

Uprev 10-15-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny McLain (Post 235099)
Because UpRev avoided the dyno issue, my gut feeling is they probably were putting me off for that very reason. Would have drove down last week as 2.5 hours is nothing and trying to get things finished. Let us know how it works.

Adam @ Z-1 Performance called me and my gears are shipping. Very happy to wait and my hats are off to anyone whom takes the time to do it correctly. Nothing wrong with that and everything right about it.

Seriously man? If you think we don't want to work with you thats fine. Just keep our name out of your posts. I don't just sit around on forums all day waiting on your beck and call. You start off calling me dumb, then act like I'm here to "take your money", and now I'm ignoring you and avoiding issues? If you are so damn quick witted you'd figure out we have a website, on that website is a contact form. As a matter of fact it has my personal cell phone number listed and I don't remember getting a call from you yet.

Obviously you're not that interested in much more than trying to stir up some ****, and thats cool with me. Just don't expect me to read a bunch of nonsense online then be anything more than a "money taker" when you show up at my shop. Act like an adult and you might get a bit friendlier service when you open my door.

Also we're not putting anything off. We're not quick to rush into things and as a well respected company we fix issues if they arise rather than brush over them and just tell people to suck it up.

I'm a consumer myself, and I sure as heck wouldn't talk trash to someone I was trying to get service or support from.

Uprev 10-15-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 237891)
On the email thing, Uprev is very good with response. I will email in the morning and have something by the afternoon, hoping to stop by when in Austin this weekend and meet some of you guys.

I'm going to the Texas Mile event this weekend, but Jared might be around the shop on Saturday. Just give us a call!

Uprev 10-15-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 236199)
Correct. When Sharif tells me it's a go, I'll update everyone here.

Finalized, but we're testing a something where we had a glitch on certain cars (John @Z1 had the issue on his 370Z while he was here) while other cars were fine. Wasn't a big issue overall but just something where we don't want a Pro Tuner to have a car on a dyno and then they have to wait for us to fix while the customer has to wait.

Sam @GTM did a bunch of flashes this last week while John (our developer) was there testing with him for his turbo kits. Everything went really well, and he didn't have the issue the whole time so we just want to make sure it goes that smoothly for everyone first.

One of the nice things though if you do have an issue, we'd rather solve that issue and keep you as a customer than let you walk off to some other product. Our Pro Tuners will tell you how often we help them resolve an issue with a car they are having an issue with. We update our software constantly to help them work with tons of new vehicles, and we're always adding more. Sentra, Altima, Maxima, FX, M, EX, QX, Frontier, Xterra, we've worked on all these lately, so it's not just 370Z support going on here.

semtex 10-15-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Uprev (Post 237906)
Finalized, but we're testing a something where we had a glitch on certain cars (John @Z1 had the issue on his 370Z while he was here) while other cars were fine. Wasn't a big issue overall but just something where we don't want a Pro Tuner to have a car on a dyno and then they have to wait for us to fix while the customer has to wait.

Sam @GTM did a bunch of flashes this last week while John (our developer) was there testing with him for his turbo kits. Everything went really well, and he didn't have the issue the whole time so we just want to make sure it goes that smoothly for everyone first.

One of the nice things though if you do have an issue, we'd rather solve that issue and keep you as a customer than let you walk off to some other product. Our Pro Tuners will tell you how often we help them resolve an issue with a car they are having an issue with. We update our software constantly to help them work with tons of new vehicles, and we're always adding more. Sentra, Altima, Maxima, FX, M, EX, QX, Frontier, Xterra, we've worked on all these lately, so it's not just 370Z support going on here.

And I appreciate how careful and diligent you guys are! If only everyone were this responsible with their product releases and support. :tup:

Uprev 10-15-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 237910)
And I appreciate how careful and diligent you guys are! If only everyone were this responsible with their product releases and support. :tup:

Keep up with Sharif, as soon as we have the testing done he'll have the software and we're dying to see what he comes up with for customers. He always seems to have some kick *** customer cars to show off.

Sharif@Forged 10-15-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Uprev (Post 237912)
Keep up with Sharif, as soon as we have the testing done he'll have the software and we're dying to see what he comes up with for customers. He always seems to have some kick *** customer cars to show off.

Yup, just waiting for your go ahead. Semtex is ready to come in on a moment's notice. :)

UpRev is very through in their testing, and always willing to help at all hours of the day and night it seems. :)

travisjb 10-15-2009 06:05 PM

Can someone recap for me what my options will be? sorry, don't have the time / patience / intellect to read through this whole thread and figure it out!... situation is this:

- car is being prep'd for racing / time trial
- only mods to engine are Stillen CAI, GTM straight pipes, and Stillen CBE
- I also have some light weight drive train components (clutch, flywheel)
- I do not need multiple modes (switch via cruise control), and in fact that'd prob be frowned upon by my sanctioning bodies
- I want some gain through tuning, but more importantly I want to flatten the power curve as much as possible so that I optimize my WEIGHT/POWER ratio for classing purposes, and get the maximum area 'under the curve'
- I'm located in phoenix, az

Thanks!!!
Travis

theDreamer 10-15-2009 06:10 PM

Per Uprev's website:

Xact Dyno
1980 E. 5th St.
Tempe AZ, 85281
xactdyno.com
(480) 829-1919

That is the only Arizona shop listed.

travisjb 10-15-2009 07:11 PM

they do a lot of honda tuning, i've heard of them

i'm really looking for feedback on, given what I mention above, should i go uprev or cobb, custom tune or otherwise, and any other sage advice you guys would offer up... and if custom tune, does it matter who I take it to ? is it worth a pilgrimage to a particular shop outside of AZ ?

John@Z1 10-16-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 238319)
they do a lot of honda tuning, i've heard of them

i'm really looking for feedback on, given what I mention above, should i go uprev or cobb, custom tune or otherwise, and any other sage advice you guys would offer up... and if custom tune, does it matter who I take it to ? is it worth a pilgrimage to a particular shop outside of AZ ?

Yes it does matter who you take it to. Take the vehicle to a shop that is very thorough and will tune it the way you want it for the setup. I'm Uprev FTW.

Denny McLain 10-16-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Uprev (Post 237897)
Seriously man? If you think we don't want to work with you thats fine. Just keep our name out of your posts. I don't just sit around on forums all day waiting on your beck and call. You start off calling me dumb, then act like I'm here to "take your money", and now I'm ignoring you and avoiding issues? If you are so damn quick witted you'd figure out we have a website, on that website is a contact form. As a matter of fact it has my personal cell phone number listed and I don't remember getting a call from you yet.

Obviously you're not that interested in much more than trying to stir up some ****, and thats cool with me. Just don't expect me to read a bunch of nonsense online then be anything more than a "money taker" when you show up at my shop. Act like an adult and you might get a bit friendlier service when you open my door.

Also we're not putting anything off. We're not quick to rush into things and as a well respected company we fix issues if they arise rather than brush over them and just tell people to suck it up.

I'm a consumer myself, and I sure as heck wouldn't talk trash to someone I was trying to get service or support from.

You taking it more seriously than it was meant to be.

It was meant to be tongue n cheek and no trash talk intended. Just joking because I couldn't get a straight answer out you and was interested in getting my car done. Remember..... you made the post announcing it was ready?

For some reason you would not respond to straight forward questions and solicitation. Trying to get the car done before it went into a shop for some minor repair this week. Plus, business trip planned next week so my schedule was limited. Sorry, my biological clock is ticking and wanted to hit the track with it done this year.

With that said.....don't expect to see me anytime soon so it appears neither one of us has anything to worry about. I can probably somehow live w/o ya. It may be hard, but I'll just grit my teeth and cry in my soup.

phelan 10-16-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny McLain (Post 239392)
I can probably somehow live w/o ya. It may be hard, but I'll just grit my teeth and cry in my soup.

^
:wtf: pretty sharp for a tongue-in-cheek comment

anyway, i was talking to some of the folks at church automotive nearby, and they also recommended that i get an uprev unit. i'm hearing a lot more support for them than cobb; i don't think i'll take the car out on tracks enough to warrant a custom tune (i don't even know how much that would run me)...

but that's just my thinking right now

Uprev 10-19-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 238287)
Can someone recap for me what my options will be? sorry, don't have the time / patience / intellect to read through this whole thread and figure it out!... situation is this:

- car is being prep'd for racing / time trial
- only mods to engine are Stillen CAI, GTM straight pipes, and Stillen CBE
- I also have some light weight drive train components (clutch, flywheel)
- I do not need multiple modes (switch via cruise control), and in fact that'd prob be frowned upon by my sanctioning bodies
- I want some gain through tuning, but more importantly I want to flatten the power curve as much as possible so that I optimize my WEIGHT/POWER ratio for classing purposes, and get the maximum area 'under the curve'
- I'm located in phoenix, az

Thanks!!!
Travis

Travis, right now almost all the NISMO SCCA/NASA cars are using our software. The stock torque curve on the 370 is damn near flat as possible. Your mods though are probably throwing things off a bit. Contact TIM @ Xact and we'll get the software out to him asap.

Uprev 10-19-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 239429)
^
:wtf: pretty sharp for a tongue-in-cheek comment

anyway, i was talking to some of the folks at church automotive nearby, and they also recommended that i get an uprev unit. i'm hearing a lot more support for them than cobb; i don't think i'll take the car out on tracks enough to warrant a custom tune (i don't even know how much that would run me)...

but that's just my thinking right now

Church isn't expensive and I'm pretty sure a custom tune from him using Osiris ends up being about the same as our Osiris Standard. Osiris Standard is $200 more than just the Osiris Flash that our Pro Tuners use because it includes the Cipher cable.

I'd give Shawn a ring and get an appointment set up with him.

phelan 10-19-2009 07:15 PM

Well it's not really on my radar until next year at earliest, but good to know. Shawn's taken care of me so far, and I'm happy with their shop, so I'll get back to them when I'm ready.

Thanks for the info!

travisjb 10-19-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Uprev (Post 244380)
Travis, right now almost all the NISMO SCCA/NASA cars are using our software. The stock torque curve on the 370 is damn near flat as possible. Your mods though are probably throwing things off a bit. Contact TIM @ Xact and we'll get the software out to him asap.

will do, rich, thanks for getting back to me

blackbird 10-19-2009 08:44 PM

FYI to Uprev. I have the Stillen Gen 3 intake, headers, HFC and CBE. I added something called Fang Vents invented by Modshack. Directs air directly to the intake filters. No tuning done. Car put on dyno and checked out. No air flow problems. I questioned this and was told I "could run it like I stole it". Just a little something to throw in the mix.

Uprev 10-20-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbird (Post 244642)
FYI to Uprev. I have the Stillen Gen 3 intake, headers, HFC and CBE. I added something called Fang Vents invented by Modshack. Directs air directly to the intake filters. No tuning done. Car put on dyno and checked out. No air flow problems. I questioned this and was told I "could run it like I stole it". Just a little something to throw in the mix.

Each car is different so what works well on yours may not work well on another. Also what shop did the dyno work? Have an AFR reading along with the dyno chart?

Zsteve 10-21-2009 06:57 PM

Uprev or anyone, Im a little confused on your standard tuning option. Coming from a turbo car the tunes were mostly generic to your ECU and what mods you had done and they just upload the tune to the ECU without putting the car on a dyno. So with your standard tuning is my car put on a dyno to tweak for my mods? And if so do I have to pay for the standard tune and the dyno time too? Thanks.

Uprev 10-21-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 247249)
Uprev or anyone, Im a little confused on your standard tuning option. Coming from a turbo car the tunes were mostly generic to your ECU and what mods you had done and they just upload the tune to the ECU without putting the car on a dyno. So with your standard tuning is my car put on a dyno to tweak for my mods? And if so do I have to pay for the standard tune and the dyno time too? Thanks.

We sell Osiris Standard mostly for people that aren't close to a Pro Tuner. The idea of a Base Tune doesn't really sit well with us, as each car is different. We offer our eTunes for those customers so that they aren't just left with a base tune, it can be adjusted to be safe on their vehicle.

We generally have customers work with a Pro Tuner if they are in range of one. A Dyno Tune is always preferable obviously. You can not do a generic base tune for a forced induction vehicle, unless of course you're the person making that FI system and have done the needed testing. So we don't directly offer Osiris Standard for forced induction though our OEMs like GT Motorsport do offer it with their turbo and supercharger systems.

We can work with the base tune and our eTunes to provide a decent upgraded tune, and the more accurate data we get back the better the eTune will be. So doing data logging with a dyno helps.

You can always purchase Osiris Standard and then work with a Pro Tuner to do a full dyno tune, our set up is very flexible. One of the nice things if you are within range of a Pro Tuner then you only need purchase Osiris Flash Service from the Pro Tuner and spend your extra money on the Dyno Tune. If you'd like you can purchase Cipher later from the Pro Tuner if you'd like to do data logging.

Zsteve 10-21-2009 08:27 PM

OK so with the standard I get the areas listed on your site tuned. Do I need to download my ECU with mods to you so that you can retune and send back to me? Sorry for the noob questions but still need clarification.

chuckd05 10-23-2009 06:27 PM

Do you have an approx release date ?

Denny McLain 10-24-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 239429)
^
:wtf: pretty sharp for a tongue-in-cheek comment

The last post obviously was not tongue in cheek by any means. Something just plain doesn’t add up nor feel quite right... so, no thanks Homes. In the beginning however, very much tongue in cheek as the genuine interest to go to their facility was legit and bewildering as somehow couldn't click asking very, very simple questions. You tell me…..Asking what kind of dyno do have is somehow difficult or inappropriate?..??

The AccessPort is already paid for (neat little gadget) and appeared last dyno session to finally begin to effect the Fuel/Air tune so we’ll run with what we have. Next tuning session we’ll go a little deeper playing more with the timing which so far has eluded me with a mysterious mind of its own as the Accessport appears to not affect it to date.

We'll see what Cobb what has done to further progress the software in addition to my ability to figure out how to effectively affect and find the best timing. If not.... It’s pretty close and N/A tuning does not grow giant bean stalks, its inching along. Don't let anyone BS you differently, “Pro Tuner” or not.

John@Z1 10-24-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 249624)
Do you have an approx release date ?

We tuned a 370Z with it yesterday. I will be posting numbers later. Tuning is a learning curve on the 370Z but we're happy.

theDreamer 10-24-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John@Z1 (Post 250145)
We tuned a 370Z with it yesterday. I will be posting numbers later. Tuning is a learning curve on the 370Z but we're happy.

Good to hear.
When I was in Austin they said they are ready, only thing is they do not have all the ECUs so if your car has one they have not seen it might be a few days while they do there thing, then you can get your tune. :D Though by the sounds of it they are getting them in quickly though.

Dustin@Z1 10-26-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 219265)
So how much added power could be made using your software with full bolt-ons (estamate)

*Sorry guys, I made a mistake a misunderstood what John was telling me when we were discussing this. These numbers were on a customers car.*

We are using the program here at the shop have seen around a 20 rwhp gain from tuning. We still have more tuning ahead of us. Our numbers went from 276 hp to 296 hp. John and I will keep you guys updated on this.

John will be posting the numbers from our shop 370Z later!

Zsteve 10-26-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 253344)
We are using the program here at the shop on our shop 370 Z and have seen around a 20 rwhp gain from tuning. We still have more tuning ahead of us. Our numbers went from 276 hp to 296 hp. John and I will keep you guys updated on this.

Is that just tuning alone or the tune and the mods combined?

Daishi 10-27-2009 12:05 PM

yeah im anxious for you guys to release some tunes so i can go ahead and purchase this soon.. i know cobb doesnt even have any tunes out yet either..

John@Z1 10-27-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 253521)
Is that just tuning alone or the tune and the mods combined?


Wrong car I will have our numbers up later this week.

B1nks 10-28-2009 03:37 AM

my Z will hopefully be with UpRev Thurs. morning with it's G3 intakes and F.I. exhaust ready for the tune. Kinda makes me wish I had hung onto the HFC just for the little bit extra hehe.

Zsteve 10-28-2009 07:53 AM

Please do a before dyno with all mods and then an after dyno with the tune so we can see what the tune does for the mods. Thanks.

cotizi 10-28-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 255692)
my Z will hopefully be with UpRev Thurs. morning with it's G3 intakes and F.I. exhaust ready for the tune. Kinda makes me wish I had hung onto the HFC just for the little bit extra hehe.

Sweet! I'm interested in your results seeing as I have just Intake and Exhaust as well.

semtex 10-28-2009 05:23 PM

I had my car done this afternoon. Posted the results here -> http://www.the370z.com/tuning/10654-...semtexs-z.html

B1nks 11-01-2009 10:40 AM

I baselined 291 and got about 9rwhp from the G3 intakes. I got about another 4whp from the tune for approximately 304/242. Car is acting a bit funny on cold starts though but hopefully that can be worked out.

Kastley85891 11-05-2009 05:07 PM

First thing Ill be putting in my Z is a WBo2, tuning is not so tough if you get the basics in there, but be warned its a very time consuming hobby....lol
I am debating which flashing software / logging software to go with, I have used different models on different vehicles, will need to look in to the 'Z' options a little more closely.

Side note - does any one sell bigger injectors for the 370? Id like to see how it would go on E85?? ;-)

1slow370 11-06-2009 04:46 AM

when we there be a tuner release and cipher?

semtex 01-21-2010 01:26 PM

Uprev, have you guys made any progress on being able to control timing with our cars yet?

RCZ 01-21-2010 01:34 PM

+1 where did you go?


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