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B1nks 10-03-2009 08:12 AM

Damn, I would do this ASAP but I think the nearest tuner for me is actually UpRev which is 3.5 hours away.

theDreamer 10-03-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 220913)
Damn, I would do this ASAP but I think the nearest tuner for me is actually UpRev which is 3.5 hours away.

Yep, I tend to go to Austin once a month so if I do I will give them a call so they can download my ECU. No tuning for me until my exhaust comes in later this year.

cotizi 10-03-2009 09:23 PM

Rich,
I live about 5 min away from your shop, and can help if you need 370Z ROMs to download. I think its still to early for me to get a tune, im still short a few bolt on's right now!

Denny McLain 10-04-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 220499)
There are several different ECU's/ROM files for the 370Z. So basically, we need to get some more 370Z's in our shop, and dump the ECU to our laptops. We then send this file to UpRev so their engineers can build a patch to allow reflashing to occur. Once a ROM type is in the library, than any Pro Tuner can tune that specific ECU. The 350Z for instance, has well over 20 different ECU types/ROM Files that all had to be patched back in the day.

Semtex....come on down!!! Call me!

OK...... So that means it is still under development. In addition, no one has addressed the cam timing aspect and by skirting the issue; the very simple obvious assumption is it also is still under development.

Someone, tell me I'm wrong.

Lastly..... why can't I do a read and send it in to Uprev if that is what they are looking for? More in their database.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 219262)
Just out of curiousity, how different is the ECU for the G37 from the 370Z ECU, if any?

Drastically different. They revamped the whole thing top to bottom to support all the new sensors and controls the motor has.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 219265)
So how much added power could be made using your software with full bolt-ons (estamite)

We never estimate that. Thats what bad companies do, they sell you on the idea that you'll make XX power increase. Each car is different, all we make is software to control your motor, you car will make the power it makes.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny McLain (Post 219779)
Havn't gone to your website yet but what if your a non-pro tuner? Hey, I can tune cars, just don't do it for a living. Is there a "consumer" version that can be purchased and can you control cam timing?

Osiris Tuner is what you're talking about.

No cam control as of yet. Need to do a ton of testing on that, we want to make sure we give solid reliable controls on it. No point in giving people the ability to brake the VVEL system, we'd rather give safe adjustments.

Honestly the stock cam control is about flawless for NA. The torque is damn near flat off idle to redline, one of the most amazing cam setups ever built and it works so well. It may help to adjust them in boosted applications, but not till we're sure we only add safe controls.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 220075)
Can someone please enlighten me on what it means to have your ROM dumped and patched? I get that the tuners need to download our ROMs. But what's with the patching? Do they need to be 'fixed' in some way before they can even do the tuning?

Yes we take the stock ROM file, and we add our controls to it. It's a bit more in depth than that but thats the general idea. We like to replace the ROM file with the actual ROM your car came with or the update for that ROM. Other companies use a single ROM to overwrite many ROM files. Nissan uses different ROM files for a reason and when you do it the cheap/easy way it can cause all sorts of odd problems.

Our way takes a while longer but the end results speak for themselves. Less customer issues, and the issues that do arise we resolve.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacDaddy (Post 220602)
I can bring mine down, if you're interested..throw me a PM

I don't use PMs, too many forums to keep up with. rich@uprev.com e-mail me and we can set up an appointment.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 220967)
Yep, I tend to go to Austin once a month so if I do I will give them a call so they can download my ECU. No tuning for me until my exhaust comes in later this year.

We can tune your car now, intakes often throw a tune off more than anything. They can change the airflow over the MAFs and create a ton of havoc with the ECU controlling the motor.

When your exhaust comes in we can re-tune your car for just the additional dyno time. We charge by the half hour on retunes, so it's rather cheap insurance making sure that your car is running safely.

Uprev 10-04-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cotizi (Post 221449)
Rich,
I live about 5 min away from your shop, and can help if you need 370Z ROMs to download. I think its still to early for me to get a tune, im still short a few bolt on's right now!

Bring it by! We're usually there 10am-6pm M-F. Generally Jared is there noon to 8pm and he can dump your ROM file. We may already have it, we have some of them already, but you can stop by and check out the shop.

NewYorkJon34 10-04-2009 09:58 PM

Performance wise, how would a 370Z with your tuned ECU be different than a stock 370Z?

Uprev 10-04-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 222545)
Performance wise, how would a 370Z with your tuned ECU be different than a stock 370Z?

Depends on the car. Tuning isn't some static deal. Each car is totally different, and each tune needs to be adjusted per car. The canned tune systems don't work as witnessed time and time again in the complaints posted in the forums.

Tuning allows you to make the motor run more efficiently. The more efficient the motor runs, the more power you make. If your car is dead to nuts accurate right now, then you gain a total of nothing. We rarely see that happen, 99.9% of cars we've tuned have made 3+hp across the rpm range, with more power being seen when there are drops in the stock curve. The more mods you make, the more potential to cause the stock tune to be out of whack and the more power gain potential you'll have.

Though some totally stock cars have made as much as 35hp gains, thats not what we're going to put on our advertisements. It's not fair to consumers to think that tuning makes that kind of power unless something is out of whack with how their car is running.

No car has ever lost power with our product. Remember we only make software allowing your car to be adjusted. We don't make power. Thats a byproduct of your motor running more efficiently. Most cars have a small bit left in them when they are totally stock. Cars with mods usually have rather large amounts of power to be made.

In fact if you look at the cost of an exhaust for the 370Z and the power it makes, vs. a full dyno tune with Osiris, you'll find that most of the time we're not just less than half the price but that you'll make more power with the tune. With the price of intakes right now we almost always win the price/performance comparison.

I'd contact one of our Pro Tuners if I was you and ask them some questions. Most of our Pro Tuners are very open and willing to explain details and work with you to plan out your mods so that you don't go doing something either very costly or totally useless. It's your money, and your car, spend wisely.

cotizi 10-04-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Uprev (Post 222536)
Bring it by! We're usually there 10am-6pm M-F. Generally Jared is there noon to 8pm and he can dump your ROM file. We may already have it, we have some of them already, but you can stop by and check out the shop.

Will Do. Most likely Friday this week. I'm anxious to see what you guys have cookin.

NewYorkJon34 10-04-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Uprev (Post 222567)
It's your money, and your car, spend wisely.

Your def right about that, HPlogic is the closest tuner that seems to be active in the 370Z community, I should probably contact them whenever you guys finalize a tune & I buy a few more mods.


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