things to do before dyno day

visconti · 11-24-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

8,500 miles on the car. Ain't worth it.

Must have misread, thought you had more miles.

Uprev or EcuTek ?

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Vnismo370z · 11-24-2013, 07:32 PM

Uprev

synolimit · 11-24-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Mobil 1 is fine.

I'd have to dig and research more but we know these things "burn oil." Watery oil isn't good. You don't need a lab to see the pour rate out of the bottle. Based on a thinner oil flow rate and a motor notorious to lose some during OCI, I can't agree and say its fine. It might protect ok but you might end up spending more to refill and a number of other things that might happen which are just annoying.

Jordo! · 11-25-2013, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

I'd have to dig and research more but we know these things "burn oil." Watery oil isn't good. You don't need a lab to see the pour rate out of the bottle. Based on a thinner oil flow rate and a motor notorious to lose some during OCI, I can't agree and say its fine. It might protect ok but you might end up spending more to refill and a number of other things that might happen which are just annoying.

I personally prefer Redline, based on the UOA's I was getting on my previous Z, where I was the original owner and responsible for break-in vs. "German" Castrol, but I don't recall any clear evidence of Mobil 1 being especially bad based on other folks' UOA's.

Are you going on something from the Oil Nerd's thread, BITOG or your own UOA's?

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Originally Posted by Vnismo370z

Mustang ... uprev

A couple of suggestions:

1. Mustangs can "break hearts" or "lift spirits" -- it all depends how they are calibrated. Don't get too wrapped up the absolute values -- look to see what you put down BEFORE tuning and then AFTER tuning.

I also advise you allow for three runs before AND after (i.e., 6 runs minimum in total) to give the ECU time to adjust to changes made to the target AFR map. Try to take all runs with oil temps between 180* F and 200* F. If it gets over 220* F (and it might), let it cool down before the next pull.

2. While you are there, ask for adjustment to the throttle maps to improve throttle response, turning the radiator fans on full bast a bit earlier (there's a few threads on each of these items) and if you have a 7AT, ask the tuner to firm up the shifts by adjusting the torque map.

Good luck!

Vnismo370z · 11-25-2013, 03:14 PM

6mt. and I have about 2 hours of dyno time. Clock stops on cool down periods.

TerribleONE · 11-25-2013, 03:19 PM

Did you change the flux capacitor?

phunk · 11-25-2013, 03:33 PM

i never once even removed my factory installed spark plugs until several several thousands of boosted miles, guessing maybe 20K boosted, and they looked like I should just put them back in.

I cant imagine a NA VHR needing plugs before 50,000 miles, if not way more.

TerribleONE · 11-25-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

i never once even removed my factory installed spark plugs until several several thousands of boosted miles, guessing maybe 20K boosted, and they looked like I should just put them back in.

I cant imagine a NA VHR needing plugs before 50,000 miles, if not way more.

Wow I am surprised you had that many boosted miles on the stock plugs.. Maybe everyone is a little over paranoid about it?

phunk · 11-25-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Wow I am surprised you had that many boosted miles on the stock plugs.. Maybe everyone is a little over paranoid about it?

Yes everyone is way too paranoid about the wrong things. These cars simply need hardly anything to support all the power the stock engine is good for.

synolimit · 11-27-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I personally prefer Redline, based on the UOA's I was getting on my previous Z, where I was the original owner and responsible for break-in vs. "German" Castrol, but I don't recall any clear evidence of Mobil 1 being especially bad based on other folks' UOA's.

Are you going on something from the Oil Nerd's thread, BITOG or your own UOA's?

Why do you say German Castrol? You talking about M1 0-40 euro oil?

I'm going off my UOA. They weren't bad. Just not as pretty as RL. And with the thinness, in the WRX's, those motors just burned right though it. I used RL there too and never lost a drop. This is the first motor I'm actually losing oil between changes. Same break in etc so I don't know whats up. If I ran M1 I'd probably lose it all by 3000 miles.

Vnismo370z · 11-27-2013, 08:34 PM

I lose about a quart a change... Thanks you guys! Also new oil thread!!! Now to buy some redline... also OEM filter good enough?

Riptide67 · 11-27-2013, 10:06 PM

I had a lil over 33k on my Z when I did UpRev. Drove my car for about 1,000 miles with FI exhaust, ART pipes, pulley, and G3's. I had Intec Racing check my plugs and they were ****. I had them changed out.

I didn't do my oil though since I had only put about 1,700 miles on the car since purchase. So the oil was still decent.

Riptide67 · 11-27-2013, 10:10 PM

I'm interested in what you put down. I may swap out my ART pipes for FI LTHs.

andre12031948 · 11-27-2013, 10:21 PM

can't hurt ?

Jordo! · 11-28-2013, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Why do you say German Castrol? You talking about M1 0-40 euro oil?

I'm going off my UOA. They weren't bad. Just not as pretty as RL. And with the thinness, in the WRX's, those motors just burned right though it. I used RL there too and never lost a drop. This is the first motor I'm actually losing oil between changes. Same break in etc so I don't know whats up. If I ran M1 I'd probably lose it all by 3000 miles.

Yes the 0 wt. oil.

Eh... you might want to check the TSB on oil consumption. I don't know what role the particular oil you used played a role (if any), but this is a known problem that crops up from time to time...

11-24-2013, 07:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
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11-25-2013, 03:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
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11-25-2013, 03:19 PM	#21 (permalink)
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phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	i never once even removed my factory installed spark plugs until several several thousands of boosted miles, guessing maybe 20K boosted, and they looked like I should just put them back in. I cant imagine a NA VHR needing plugs before 50,000 miles, if not way more. TerribleONE, Vnismo370z and Rusty like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

11-27-2013, 08:34 PM	#26 (permalink)
Vnismo370z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 387 Drives: '15 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 14	I lose about a quart a change... Thanks you guys! Also new oil thread!!! Now to buy some redline... also OEM filter good enough? Riptide67 likes this. __________________ starting over

11-27-2013, 10:06 PM	#27 (permalink)
Riptide67 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Age: 37 Posts: 1,610 Drives: 09 Nismo #0483 PW Rep Power: 69	I had a lil over 33k on my Z when I did UpRev. Drove my car for about 1,000 miles with FI exhaust, ART pipes, pulley, and G3's. I had Intec Racing check my plugs and they were ****. I had them changed out. I didn't do my oil though since I had only put about 1,700 miles on the car since purchase. So the oil was still decent. __________________ 2009 Nismo 370Z and 1975 Datsun 280Z 2+2 - PNW_INC - Legacy_Ohana Follow me on Instagam @s3zero_z3four

11-27-2013, 10:10 PM	#28 (permalink)
Riptide67 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Age: 37 Posts: 1,610 Drives: 09 Nismo #0483 PW Rep Power: 69	I'm interested in what you put down. I may swap out my ART pipes for FI LTHs. __________________ 2009 Nismo 370Z and 1975 Datsun 280Z 2+2 - PNW_INC - Legacy_Ohana Follow me on Instagam @s3zero_z3four

11-27-2013, 10:21 PM	#29 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	I would say three Hail Mary's before the dyno pull can't hurt ?

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