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So let me get this right do "WE" still have no sheets , no guys have tuned with this since it came out in April?? So what's going on here, I see tons of Subi guys, and FRS guys tunning with this but NO G's or 370Z's? Anyone have anything? :shakes head:

There's been a few people who have been tuned with it, but no dyno sheets. I don't think anyone here has switched from Uprev to Ecutek either. And all of the really cool features have been "any day now" for months. Visconti was the guy really pushing Ecutek, and he's been silent here since he set a customer's BRZ on fire.

Hey chuck :) , I saw that about the fire! Nuts man . I didn't really think anyone would retune with EcuTek from UPREV but guys who don't have tunes yet I thought might. I still see everyone staying with UPREV" new tunes"

Ill switch in an instant if they actually have it provide boost control and can tune the traction control. Ecutek has a better method of controlling timing than Uprev.

What fire? link please?

I wish someone would post some actual datalogs of a N/A Ecutek car with timing and AFR from the onboards.

No one will post it. Until I see logs showing more timing than what I see day in and day out on my own uprev tuned car, I refuse to believe they're accomplishing anything meaningful with their method. (For a N/A car)

I would love recalibrating traction control. Biggest drawback for switching with me is having to retune meth and no meth on a FI car. I can feel the rape already.

Spoke with John a day or two ago. Going to be making another trip up to see him in a month. Need to get retuned...some of you know my fiasco. Anyways the retune will include the new speed density feature in Ecutek.

Every vendor/tuner I've talked to will go back and forth with me forever about how great it is, but the moment I ask specifics on how it works and how it differs from Uprev I get silence.

Honestly I don't know that it is any better. I think its better for the tuner...makes their job easier which can potentially result in better performance for your car.

Ive gotten the exact same thing.

The only difference I personally can see is that Ecutek's engineers are making progress and innovating at a much faster rate over uprev.



Also while I was tuned in August there was a G37 that was a sandy victim. Car was frankensteined back to life. Anyways John was tuning that and knocked a few issues out for the owner. There are cars out there..

My PMs aren't coming to my email , but I'm around and still working on the cars.

I've posted up dynosheets of before after talked to a lot of people, most guys on the forums seem more interested in another vendors group buy.

Anyways there isn't any new news for 370Z/G37 from EcuTek right now.

EcuTek is trying to finish some GTR stuff and then on to 370Z/G37...

A lot of the GTR stuff will make it to 370Z , and I have full access to a GTR to do testing on, so I rather test the stuff on the GTR.

John

Call me tomorrow and I'll tell you why EcuTek's current release software is better for the end-user


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I appreciate the offer John, but I'm not making any kind of change until the features that were "just around the corner" in August are available. There has been no one here that has switched, only stock vehicles so we haven't seen any evidence of Ecutek providing any better results than Uprev. The gains seem to be right in line with what a similar Uprev tune would have provided. The greater timing control is great, but that's the only thing Ecutek has going for it until all of these vaporware features actually arrive.

vaporware, that's cute.

Keep talking like that , I'm sure that's the type of inspiration the dev guys at EcuTek want.

The MX5 guys don't talk like that, maybe that's why their VE Based SD, Launch Control, cylinder deactivation traction control is already in beta...just maybe.

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Ah, the famed Visconti wit strikes again. If the Ecutek guys have a problem with people mentioning the fact that their vendors were telling us these features were going to be available "any day now" three months ago then **** them. If they are holding off on promised features until people on forums show the proper deference, they'll have a hard time selling their product. For some reason, they let guys like you be their mouthpiece when you've proven you wouldn't know how to deal with customers to save your life. Between here and NASIOC, it's pretty much common knowledge that you're a very capable tuner who should let someone more even tempered handle all communication with the outside world. Your post above is a perfect example. It's not unreasonable to express doubt when promised features have been back burnered for months, and there's been no concrete evidence it's any better than Uprev, only sales hype. Want to prove us wrong? Post the data logs Shovelman asked for. Otherwise, don't you have some cars to burn down with your flex fuel kits?

Get a ecutek tune and you can make all the data logs you want, or ask any one of the guys/gals here that have made the switch.

I'm sorry EcuTek or their dealers, me included have disappointed you. Stuff gets pushed back sometimes, if you think ecutek is vapor ware don't buy it.. That simple.

This time last year the Cobb fan boys were saying that about GTR, now most of those big talkers have EcuTek. All the stuff that's getting done for GTR will be hitting 370Z.

I personally don't see a reason to stop GTR development work. If ecutek can get this stuff working perfectly on that car it's gonna make it a lot easier when it comes to 370z.

But coming on here and moaning about it... Go moan to Uprev for features.

In the end it'll get done and in the end you'll still moan about something lol

Btw I sold 3 flex fuel kits yesterday and one today. I'm doing just fine. If we can find the inputs I'll make one for the 370z.

John



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Good luck with all of that, John. I have no problem switching once the promised features are available. I also have no problem saying its all ******** until they actually do what they've said they were going to do. And the burden of proof that the product is better is not on the end user. It's on the vendor.

The fact that you think this is a valid response to a potential customer's demand for evidence that the product does anything different than an existing, competing product is, frankly, astonishing.

Also, you mention "guys and gals that have made the switch"...

Please, name one person on this forum that has made the switch so that I can ask them for relevant data. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

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It's always the same or or two guys wanting the same old thing trying to give me a hard time.

No one is making you buy anything.

In the end if you want the goods your going to make the switch, that simple.


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Get over yourself. We're questioning Ecutek, not you. You're just the guy trying to speak for Ecutek. Hell, the way you talk people thought you had some connection to them other than just being a vendor. :rofl2:

It's not too much to ask for some kind of proof. Wanting the same old thing? Proof it works differently than Uprev and the rest of the features Ecutek promised in the summer? Yes, we still want that. Again, once all of the features are released and working as promised I probably will make the switch. The only thing that you've helped with is making me 100% sure I won't be purchasing it through you.

It's also pretty funny that you've been MIA on this forum until people starting posting links to the Visconti Tuning Car-B-Que. Any coincidence there?

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

I have a low tolerance for ********


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The only person spewing bullshit is you, John.

When you have the balls to post hard data to back up your claims, then you won't be spewing bullshit, you'll be providing facts.

Until then, keep up the tough guy car tuner facade, it suits you.

What exactly do you want


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A data log, WOT, 5th gear on a dyno, 3rd or 4th on the street, to redline with these parameters:

RPM
IDC
Timing
Coolant Temp
Oil Temp
Vehicle Speed

You can keep your AFR readings to yourself if that makes you happy.

Show me a log or two that I can compare to the hundreds of Uprev logs I've gathered over the last 2 years. If the logs you provide show a significant difference vs what can be achieved with Uprev, I'll the first mofo in here saying that it's legit.

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That's it ?

Not sure if I have oil temp in there but I have several logs


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That's it! That's all I've ever been asking for and no one has provided it.

If Oil temp isn't there, it isn't too big of a deal. If it's on a dyno, chances are it's hot enough to be off the cold tables anyway.

Cold tables ? What do you mean


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Ibtf

I'm not trying to assume anything, last thing I want is to post data and see more moaning


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This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?

Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).

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I'm not one to beat around the bush, I'm straight up. When I type something you don't have to wonder how I really feel.


Ok, that's what I thought you were talking about , I believe the car switches to the normal maps at 60C coolant temp.. I don't run that hard when they're that cold. I have a few emails / etunes to take care of and I'll post up something.



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John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.

What, like, seriously? :icon14:

As a heart attack, BRZ go boooooom

Im the face of only my organization.

I'm one of the bigger EcuTek dealers and know what's going on.

If you dont like me, just press the ignore button.

John

Wow on this is why I like this forum better than my own , LOL people actual talk and post info. So that's to you guys, but still didn't really get what I was looking for , lots on info and back and forth bit still no data . I hope John post the logs your ask for and maybe we'll see the difference , but someone needs to get tuned and post data . I thought there was a "free " if you weren't happy with the tune "results " how did no one take up on that . LOL
But seriously keep this going !