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visconti · 11-21-2013, 09:08 AM

I'm not trying to assume anything, last thing I want is to post data and see more moaning

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Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

I have a low tolerance for ********

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?

Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

Cold tables ? What do you mean

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Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.

This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).

XiP · 11-21-2013, 09:24 AM

visconti · 11-21-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?

I'm not one to beat around the bush, I'm straight up. When I type something you don't have to wonder how I really feel.

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.

This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).

Ok, that's what I thought you were talking about , I believe the car switches to the normal maps at 60C coolant temp.. I don't run that hard when they're that cold. I have a few emails / etunes to take care of and I'll post up something.

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Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

I'm not one to beat around the bush, I'm straight up. When I type something you don't have to wonder how I really feel.

John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.

Jordo! · 11-21-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

There's been a few people who have been tuned with it, but no dyno sheets. I don't think anyone here has switched from Uprev to Ecutek either. And all of the really cool features have been "any day now" for months. Visconti was the guy really pushing Ecutek, and he's been silent here since he set a customer's BRZ on fire.

What, like, seriously?

elperuano · 11-21-2013, 10:18 AM

As a heart attack, BRZ go boooooom

visconti · 11-21-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.

Im the face of only my organization.

I'm one of the bigger EcuTek dealers and know what's going on.

If you dont like me, just press the ignore button.

John

ANMVQ · 11-21-2013, 10:41 AM

Wow on this is why I like this forum better than my own , LOL people actual talk and post info. So that's to you guys, but still didn't really get what I was looking for , lots on info and back and forth bit still no data . I hope John post the logs your ask for and maybe we'll see the difference , but someone needs to get tuned and post data . I thought there was a "free " if you weren't happy with the tune "results " how did no one take up on that . LOL
But seriously keep this going !

visconti · 11-21-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

What, like, seriously?

yup, burned to the ******* ground lol

We can talk about that or I can post some logs..

John

visconti · 11-21-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Wow on this is why I like this forum better than my own , LOL people actual talk and post info. So that's to you guys, but still didn't really get what I was looking for , lots on info and back and forth bit still no data . I hope John post the logs your ask for and maybe we'll see the difference , but someone needs to get tuned and post data . I thought there was a "free " if you weren't happy with the tune "results " how did no one take up on that . LOL
But seriously keep this going !

Another vendor is offering something where if you do you like it you can return it.

I offer the same thing but dont need 5 guys buying tunes and saying they dont like it and wanting their money back.

I'm looking for a log now, Im posting it because that's what people seem to want.. don't know how the log proves anything..

John

elperuano · 11-21-2013, 10:49 AM

Why wouldn't the guys like you're tune? Thought u were the best n biggest ecutek dealer?
Already being negative before u even try??? Uhh ohhh

Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

yup, burned to the ******* ground lol
We can talk about that or I can post some logs..

John

That's a laughing matter to you? Wow.

visconti · 11-21-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Why wouldn't the guys like you're tune? Thought u were the best n biggest ecutek dealer?
Already being negative before u even try??? Uhh ohhh

Some people have expectations that aren't realistic , it's a NA car..

John

11-21-2013, 09:08 AM	#31 (permalink)
visconti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 455 Drives: Sub WRX STi Rep Power: 13	I'm not trying to assume anything, last thing I want is to post data and see more moaning Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk MyKindaGuise likes this. __________________ John@vTune.us EcuTek Master Pro Tuner Visconti Tuning Webstore \| Support Documents & Downloads

11-21-2013, 09:24 AM	#34 (permalink)
XiP A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: no clipping Posts: 11,096 Drives: ↑ ↓ Rep Power: 534	__________________ I <3 Frost!!!

11-21-2013, 10:41 AM	#40 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Wow on this is why I like this forum better than my own , LOL people actual talk and post info. So that's to you guys, but still didn't really get what I was looking for , lots on info and back and forth bit still no data . I hope John post the logs your ask for and maybe we'll see the difference , but someone needs to get tuned and post data . I thought there was a "free " if you weren't happy with the tune "results " how did no one take up on that . LOL But seriously keep this going ! __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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