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Old 11-21-2013, 08:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

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Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).
Ok, that's what I thought you were talking about , I believe the car switches to the normal maps at 60C coolant temp.. I don't run that hard when they're that cold. I have a few emails / etunes to take care of and I'll post up something.



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John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.
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John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.
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