EcuTek

visconti · 11-20-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I appreciate the offer John, but I'm not making any kind of change until the features that were "just around the corner" in August are available. There has been no one here that has switched, only stock vehicles so we haven't seen any evidence of Ecutek providing any better results than Uprev. The gains seem to be right in line with what a similar Uprev tune would have provided. The greater timing control is great, but that's the only thing Ecutek has going for it until all of these vaporware features actually arrive.

vaporware, that's cute.

Keep talking like that , I'm sure that's the type of inspiration the dev guys at EcuTek want.

The MX5 guys don't talk like that, maybe that's why their VE Based SD, Launch Control, cylinder deactivation traction control is already in beta...just maybe.

Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

vaporware, that's cute.

Keep talking like that , I'm sure that's the type of inspiration the dev guys at EcuTek want.

The MX5 guys don't talk like that, maybe that's why their VE Based SD, Launch Control, cylinder deactivation traction control is already in beta...just maybe.

Ah, the famed Visconti wit strikes again. If the Ecutek guys have a problem with people mentioning the fact that their vendors were telling us these features were going to be available "any day now" three months ago then **** them. If they are holding off on promised features until people on forums show the proper deference, they'll have a hard time selling their product. For some reason, they let guys like you be their mouthpiece when you've proven you wouldn't know how to deal with customers to save your life. Between here and NASIOC, it's pretty much common knowledge that you're a very capable tuner who should let someone more even tempered handle all communication with the outside world. Your post above is a perfect example. It's not unreasonable to express doubt when promised features have been back burnered for months, and there's been no concrete evidence it's any better than Uprev, only sales hype. Want to prove us wrong? Post the data logs Shovelman asked for. Otherwise, don't you have some cars to burn down with your flex fuel kits?

visconti · 11-21-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Ah, the famed Visconti wit strikes again. If the Ecutek guys have a problem with people mentioning the fact that their vendors were telling us these features were going to be available "any day now" three months ago then **** them. If they are holding off on promised features until people on forums show the proper deference, they'll have a hard time selling their product. For some reason, they let guys like you be their mouthpiece when you've proven you wouldn't know how to deal with customers to save your life. Between here and NASIOC, it's pretty much common knowledge that you're a very capable tuner who should let someone more even tempered handle all communication with the outside world. Your post above is a perfect example. It's not unreasonable to express doubt when promised features have been back burnered for months, and there's been no concrete evidence it's any better than Uprev, only sales hype. Want to prove us wrong? Post the data logs Shovelman asked for. Otherwise, don't you have some cars to burn down with your flex fuel kits?

Get a ecutek tune and you can make all the data logs you want, or ask any one of the guys/gals here that have made the switch.

I'm sorry EcuTek or their dealers, me included have disappointed you. Stuff gets pushed back sometimes, if you think ecutek is vapor ware don't buy it.. That simple.

This time last year the Cobb fan boys were saying that about GTR, now most of those big talkers have EcuTek. All the stuff that's getting done for GTR will be hitting 370Z.

I personally don't see a reason to stop GTR development work. If ecutek can get this stuff working perfectly on that car it's gonna make it a lot easier when it comes to 370z.

But coming on here and moaning about it... Go moan to Uprev for features.

In the end it'll get done and in the end you'll still moan about something lol

Btw I sold 3 flex fuel kits yesterday and one today. I'm doing just fine. If we can find the inputs I'll make one for the 370z.

John

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Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

Get a ecutek tune and you can make all the data logs you want, or ask any one of the guys/gals here that have made the switch.

I'm sorry EcuTek or their dealers, me included have disappointed you. Stuff gets pushed back sometimes, if you think ecutek is vapor ware don't buy it.. That simple.

This time last year the Cobb fan boys were saying that about GTR, now most of those big talkers have EcuTek. All the stuff that's getting done for GTR will be hitting 370Z.

I personally don't see a reason to stop GTR development work. If ecutek can get this stuff working perfectly on that car it's gonna make it a lot easier when it comes to 370z.

But coming on here and moaning about it... Go moan to Uprev for features.

In the end it'll get done and in the end you'll still moan about something lol

Btw I sold 3 flex fuel kits yesterday and one today. I'm doing just fine. If we can find the inputs I'll make one for the 370z.

John

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Good luck with all of that, John. I have no problem switching once the promised features are available. I also have no problem saying its all ******** until they actually do what they've said they were going to do. And the burden of proof that the product is better is not on the end user. It's on the vendor.

Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

Get a ecutek tune and you can make all the data logs you want...

...or ask any one of the guys/gals here that have made the switch.

The fact that you think this is a valid response to a potential customer's demand for evidence that the product does anything different than an existing, competing product is, frankly, astonishing.

Also, you mention "guys and gals that have made the switch"...

Please, name one person on this forum that has made the switch so that I can ask them for relevant data. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

visconti · 11-21-2013, 08:32 AM

It's always the same or or two guys wanting the same old thing trying to give me a hard time.

No one is making you buy anything.

In the end if you want the goods your going to make the switch, that simple.

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Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

It's always the same or or two guys wanting the same old thing trying to give me a hard time.

Get over yourself. We're questioning Ecutek, not you. You're just the guy trying to speak for Ecutek. Hell, the way you talk people thought you had some connection to them other than just being a vendor.

It's not too much to ask for some kind of proof. Wanting the same old thing? Proof it works differently than Uprev and the rest of the features Ecutek promised in the summer? Yes, we still want that. Again, once all of the features are released and working as promised I probably will make the switch. The only thing that you've helped with is making me 100% sure I won't be purchasing it through you.

It's also pretty funny that you've been MIA on this forum until people starting posting links to the Visconti Tuning Car-B-Que. Any coincidence there?

visconti · 11-21-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Get over yourself. We're questioning Ecutek, not you. You're just the guy trying to speak for Ecutek. Hell, the way you talk people thought you had some connection to them other than just being a vendor.

It's not too much to ask for some kind of proof. Wanting the same old thing? Proof it works differently than Uprev and the rest of the features Ecutek promised in the summer? Yes, we still want that. Again, once all of the features are released and working as promised I probably will make the switch. The only thing that you've helped with is making me 100% sure I won't be purchasing it through you.

It's also pretty funny that you've been MIA on this forum until people starting posting links to the Visconti Tuning Car-B-Que. Any coincidence there?

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

I have a low tolerance for ********

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Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

I have a low tolerance for ********

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The only person spewing bullshit is you, John.

When you have the balls to post hard data to back up your claims, then you won't be spewing bullshit, you'll be providing facts.

Until then, keep up the tough guy car tuner facade, it suits you.

visconti · 11-21-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

The only person spewing bullshit is you, John.

When you have the balls to post hard data to back up your claims, then you won't be spewing bullshit, you'll be providing facts.

Until then, keep up the tough guy car tuner facade, it suits you.

What exactly do you want

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Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

What exactly do you want

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A data log, WOT, 5th gear on a dyno, 3rd or 4th on the street, to redline with these parameters:

RPM
IDC
Timing
Coolant Temp
Oil Temp
Vehicle Speed

You can keep your AFR readings to yourself if that makes you happy.

Show me a log or two that I can compare to the hundreds of Uprev logs I've gathered over the last 2 years. If the logs you provide show a significant difference vs what can be achieved with Uprev, I'll the first mofo in here saying that it's legit.

visconti · 11-21-2013, 09:03 AM

That's it ?

Not sure if I have oil temp in there but I have several logs

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Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti

That's it ?

Not sure if I have oil temp in there but I have several logs

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That's it! That's all I've ever been asking for and no one has provided it.

If Oil temp isn't there, it isn't too big of a deal. If it's on a dyno, chances are it's hot enough to be off the cold tables anyway.

visconti · 11-21-2013, 09:06 AM

Cold tables ? What do you mean

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JARblue · 11-21-2013, 09:07 AM

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11-21-2013, 08:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
visconti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 455 Drives: Sub WRX STi Rep Power: 13	It's always the same or or two guys wanting the same old thing trying to give me a hard time. No one is making you buy anything. In the end if you want the goods your going to make the switch, that simple. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ John@vTune.us EcuTek Master Pro Tuner Visconti Tuning Webstore \| Support Documents & Downloads

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visconti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 455 Drives: Sub WRX STi Rep Power: 13	That's it ? Not sure if I have oil temp in there but I have several logs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ John@vTune.us EcuTek Master Pro Tuner Visconti Tuning Webstore \| Support Documents & Downloads

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visconti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 455 Drives: Sub WRX STi Rep Power: 13	Cold tables ? What do you mean Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ John@vTune.us EcuTek Master Pro Tuner Visconti Tuning Webstore \| Support Documents & Downloads

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