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visconti 11-21-2013 08:08 AM

I'm not trying to assume anything, last thing I want is to post data and see more moaning


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Chuck33079 11-21-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2577055)
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

I have a low tolerance for ********


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This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?

Sh0velMan 11-21-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2577105)
Cold tables ? What do you mean


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Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).

XiP 11-21-2013 08:24 AM

:wtf2:

visconti 11-21-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2577128)
This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?

I'm not one to beat around the bush, I'm straight up. When I type something you don't have to wonder how I really feel.


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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2577139)
Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).

Ok, that's what I thought you were talking about , I believe the car switches to the normal maps at 60C coolant temp.. I don't run that hard when they're that cold. I have a few emails / etunes to take care of and I'll post up something.



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Chuck33079 11-21-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2577158)
I'm not one to beat around the bush, I'm straight up. When I type something you don't have to wonder how I really feel.

John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.

Jordo! 11-21-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2576187)
There's been a few people who have been tuned with it, but no dyno sheets. I don't think anyone here has switched from Uprev to Ecutek either. And all of the really cool features have been "any day now" for months. Visconti was the guy really pushing Ecutek, and he's been silent here since he set a customer's BRZ on fire.

What, like, seriously? :icon14:

elperuano 11-21-2013 09:18 AM

As a heart attack, BRZ go boooooom

visconti 11-21-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2577235)
John, that's an admirable quality in most instances. It's counterproductive when you're trying to build and retain a client base. When you're the face of an organization, you don't have the luxury of being snarky when people express their displeasure with the way a product rollout has been handled.

If you'd point me in the direction of anyone you know of that has switched from Uprev to Ecutek, I'd be happy to reach out to him or her to see what the end user can expect.

Again, I think that a full-featured Ecutek product would be leaps and bounds better than the limited software we have now. I've said that the whole time. However, what I could go buy now is not that.

Im the face of only my organization.

I'm one of the bigger EcuTek dealers and know what's going on.

If you dont like me, just press the ignore button.

John

ANMVQ 11-21-2013 09:41 AM

Wow on this is why I like this forum better than my own , LOL people actual talk and post info. So that's to you guys, but still didn't really get what I was looking for , lots on info and back and forth bit still no data . I hope John post the logs your ask for and maybe we'll see the difference , but someone needs to get tuned and post data . I thought there was a "free " if you weren't happy with the tune "results " how did no one take up on that . LOL
But seriously keep this going !

visconti 11-21-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2577302)
What, like, seriously? :icon14:

yup, burned to the ******* ground lol

We can talk about that or I can post some logs..

John

visconti 11-21-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2577359)
Wow on this is why I like this forum better than my own , LOL people actual talk and post info. So that's to you guys, but still didn't really get what I was looking for , lots on info and back and forth bit still no data . I hope John post the logs your ask for and maybe we'll see the difference , but someone needs to get tuned and post data . I thought there was a "free " if you weren't happy with the tune "results " how did no one take up on that . LOL
But seriously keep this going !

Another vendor is offering something where if you do you like it you can return it.

I offer the same thing but dont need 5 guys buying tunes and saying they dont like it and wanting their money back.


I'm looking for a log now, Im posting it because that's what people seem to want.. don't know how the log proves anything..

John

elperuano 11-21-2013 09:49 AM

Why wouldn't the guys like you're tune? Thought u were the best n biggest ecutek dealer?
Already being negative before u even try??? Uhh ohhh

Chuck33079 11-21-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2577360)
yup, burned to the ******* ground lol
We can talk about that or I can post some logs..

John

That's a laughing matter to you? Wow.

visconti 11-21-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2577393)
Why wouldn't the guys like you're tune? Thought u were the best n biggest ecutek dealer?
Already being negative before u even try??? Uhh ohhh

Some people have expectations that aren't realistic , it's a NA car..

John


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