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Originally Posted by visconti Call me tomorrow and I'll tell you why what EcuTek has now is better. 203-856-9946 John I appreciate the offer John, but I'm not making any

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I appreciate the offer John, but I'm not making any kind of change until the features that were "just around the corner" in August are available. There has been no one here that has switched, only stock vehicles so we haven't seen any evidence of Ecutek providing any better results than Uprev. The gains seem to be right in line with what a similar Uprev tune would have provided. The greater timing control is great, but that's the only thing Ecutek has going for it until all of these vaporware features actually arrive.
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I appreciate the offer John, but I'm not making any kind of change until the features that were "just around the corner" in August are available. There has been no one here that has switched, only stock vehicles so we haven't seen any evidence of Ecutek providing any better results than Uprev. The gains seem to be right in line with what a similar Uprev tune would have provided. The greater timing control is great, but that's the only thing Ecutek has going for it until all of these vaporware features actually arrive.
vaporware, that's cute.

Keep talking like that , I'm sure that's the type of inspiration the dev guys at EcuTek want.

The MX5 guys don't talk like that, maybe that's why their VE Based SD, Launch Control, cylinder deactivation traction control is already in beta...just maybe.

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vaporware, that's cute.

Keep talking like that , I'm sure that's the type of inspiration the dev guys at EcuTek want.

The MX5 guys don't talk like that, maybe that's why their VE Based SD, Launch Control, cylinder deactivation traction control is already in beta...just maybe.

Ah, the famed Visconti wit strikes again. If the Ecutek guys have a problem with people mentioning the fact that their vendors were telling us these features were going to be available "any day now" three months ago then **** them. If they are holding off on promised features until people on forums show the proper deference, they'll have a hard time selling their product. For some reason, they let guys like you be their mouthpiece when you've proven you wouldn't know how to deal with customers to save your life. Between here and NASIOC, it's pretty much common knowledge that you're a very capable tuner who should let someone more even tempered handle all communication with the outside world. Your post above is a perfect example. It's not unreasonable to express doubt when promised features have been back burnered for months, and there's been no concrete evidence it's any better than Uprev, only sales hype. Want to prove us wrong? Post the data logs Shovelman asked for. Otherwise, don't you have some cars to burn down with your flex fuel kits?
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My PMs aren't coming to my email , but I'm around and still working on the cars.

I've posted up dynosheets of before after talked to a lot of people, most guys on the forums seem more interested in another vendors group buy.

Anyways there isn't any new news for 370Z/G37 from EcuTek right now.

EcuTek is trying to finish some GTR stuff and then on to 370Z/G37...

A lot of the GTR stuff will make it to 370Z , and I have full access to a GTR to do testing on, so I rather test the stuff on the GTR.

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It's always the same or or two guys wanting the same old thing trying to give me a hard time.

No one is making you buy anything.

In the end if you want the goods your going to make the switch, that simple.


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Get over yourself. We're questioning Ecutek, not you. You're just the guy trying to speak for Ecutek. Hell, the way you talk people thought you had some connection to them other than just being a vendor.

It's not too much to ask for some kind of proof. Wanting the same old thing? Proof it works differently than Uprev and the rest of the features Ecutek promised in the summer? Yes, we still want that. Again, once all of the features are released and working as promised I probably will make the switch. The only thing that you've helped with is making me 100% sure I won't be purchasing it through you.

It's also pretty funny that you've been MIA on this forum until people starting posting links to the Visconti Tuning Car-B-Que. Any coincidence there?
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Get over yourself. We're questioning Ecutek, not you. You're just the guy trying to speak for Ecutek. Hell, the way you talk people thought you had some connection to them other than just being a vendor.

It's not too much to ask for some kind of proof. Wanting the same old thing? Proof it works differently than Uprev and the rest of the features Ecutek promised in the summer? Yes, we still want that. Again, once all of the features are released and working as promised I probably will make the switch. The only thing that you've helped with is making me 100% sure I won't be purchasing it through you.

It's also pretty funny that you've been MIA on this forum until people starting posting links to the Visconti Tuning Car-B-Que. Any coincidence there?
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

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I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

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The only person spewing bullshit is you, John.

When you have the balls to post hard data to back up your claims, then you won't be spewing bullshit, you'll be providing facts.

Until then, keep up the tough guy car tuner facade, it suits you.
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The only person spewing bullshit is you, John.

When you have the balls to post hard data to back up your claims, then you won't be spewing bullshit, you'll be providing facts.

Until then, keep up the tough guy car tuner facade, it suits you.
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I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, I just happen to have a lot more info on the subject then most.

I have google alerts for EcuTek, this thread came up in it last night so I jumped on the forum to see what was going on.

All you want is to moan, I could careless if you actually bought EcuTek, I certainly wouldn't sell it to you and a few other individuals so I'm glad that's all cleared that up.

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?
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That's it ?

Not sure if I have oil temp in there but I have several logs


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That's it! That's all I've ever been asking for and no one has provided it.

If Oil temp isn't there, it isn't too big of a deal. If it's on a dyno, chances are it's hot enough to be off the cold tables anyway.
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Cold tables ? What do you mean


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Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you run a business. Bravo, John. Keep it up, I think there are still a few people here that would consider using your services. Jesus Christ, hire someone to handle communication and go sit in the back and tune cars. You're good at that. You're not good with talking to people.

Since when is it ******** for potential customers to express displeasure about promised features getting back burnered for six months or asking for proof?
I'm not one to beat around the bush, I'm straight up. When I type something you don't have to wonder how I really feel.


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Well, in it's normal form, the Z's ecu switches from the 'Cold' fuel and timing tables when the oil temp breaks a barrier. It's around 80c I believe. It has hysteresis, so it doesn't switch BACK to the cold tables just because oil temp drops below that threshold unless the oil temp drops very very low.

That said, there is a point during warm up where the ECU interpolates as best it can between the COLD and MAIN tables until that threshold is broken. I don't know what that point where the interpolation begins is, however.


This is just info from the guys @ Uprev on the behavior of the stock ECU. It may not apply at all to a 'Race Rom' flashed ECU, I don't know.

My only point was, as long as it has come up to ~180 degrees, it's irrelevant to this discussion (as long as it isn't overheated of course).
Ok, that's what I thought you were talking about , I believe the car switches to the normal maps at 60C coolant temp.. I don't run that hard when they're that cold. I have a few emails / etunes to take care of and I'll post up something.



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