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Just as an exemple . I had the tuner version . They gave me 2 files with it The back to stock rom and the base uprev rom which you

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Old 07-19-2013, 05:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Just as an exemple . I had the tuner version . They gave me 2 files with it
The back to stock rom and the base uprev rom which you can modify because its just a copy of the stock rom ....

You get en e-Tune . Which needed some of your datalog then sent them to uprev.
They work on a tune then lock it. Simply to prevent other peoples to potentialy modifying it thenhave a chance to blow your engine. Its safe for both side, you and them.

Why would they let you get an etune and possibily letting you sharing it to someo else with similar mods ?
They would lose money .

Since I got my Tuner cable upgraded to Pro version I now lock everything I tune.
Im not letting other tuners see the tweaks I have done.


If you arent happy with their etune . You are more than welcome asking them the base rom of your ECU then tune it the way you like with your tuner cable. I doubt they would let you touch their etune rom !
Good luck with that
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I am only opposing in the change of marketing policy without advice.
I agree with you here. If you were specifically told one thing and received another, that's an issue. I guess it boils down to what the map they sent you is really considered. Is the rom a final product, or is it a base map meant to give you a starting point for your tuning? I would think it would be the former, but if your communications with them made it out to be the latter it's on them.
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Just as an exemple . I had the tuner version . They gave me 2 files with it
The back to stock rom and the base uprev rom which you can modify because its just a copy of the stock rom ....

You get en e-Tune . Which needed some of your datalog then sent them to uprev.
They work on a tune then lock it. Simply to prevent other peoples to potentialy modifying it thenhave a chance to blow your engine. Its safe for both side, you and them.

Why would they let you get an etune and possibily letting you sharing it to someo else with similar mods ?
They would lose money .

Since I got my Tuner cable upgraded to Pro version I now lock everything I tune.
Im not letting other tuners see the tweaks I have done.


If you arent happy with their etune . You are more than welcome asking them the base rom of your ECU then tune it the way you like with your tuner cable. I doubt they would let you touch their etune rom !
Good luck with that
The question is:
Why when I purchased three years ago the e-tune procedures works in a way, and now after three years without advice, after I spent my money on Uprev products the procedure changes?

To reply your question: I like to see what's happens, I am simply curious with some of money.
I live in Italy, so for a safety reason I made the maps directly from Uprev. Here there aren't Pro-Tuners.

So if I choose between Two products, for example Cobb and Uprev.
Three years ago Uprev "says": well, you can look my maps with Tuner Version.
And I bought Uprev.

Now, after 3 years, Uprev changes Idea: "No, now that you had bought my software, the maps are locked!"

Well, I thinks that it's not correct.
As is if tomorrow Bill Gates will say: ALL PEOPLE that mounts Windows will installs ONLY Microsoft Software.
Ok, Windows is your, but I payed to used it when I bought my PC. Why now I can not work as yesterday!?
The same is Uprev.

For the safety: perhaps you are right, but REMEMBER! Every owner that modify his car assumes a risk.... ....if I modify the Map without know what I do, or I mount myself the braking plate without know what I do. The GUILT is not of Uprev or Brembo.... ...but mine...
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For the safety: perhaps you are right, but REMEMBER! Every owner that modify his car assumes a risk.... ....if I modify the Map without know what I do, or I mount myself the braking plate without know what I do. The GUILT is not of Uprev or Brembo.... ...but mine...
That's part of it. Not everybody is willing to accept personal responsibility and would rather blame the supplier. The other part is for their protection.

Businesses change policies all the time. Three years is a long time. I do think they should have told you their policy had changed in that time, though. I haven't used their E-tunes. Do they give you a disclosure similar to the End User Licensing Agreement on a software program?
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.....I do think they should have told you their policy had changed in that time, though. ......
No...

...only when I received the file, I found a password...
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No...

...only when I received the file, I found a password...
That's a fail on their end. A simple FYI would have gone a long way here. I hope they unlock your map, considering your location and access to tuners. I can't imagine why they wouldn't.
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3 years ago, they didnt had the option to lock the map/rom. Its been like almost a year I think they upgraded their software enough to allow tuner tu lock their tuned map .

But I agree that Uprev should have mentionned somewhere that their etune would be locked for now on, for safety reasons.
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I asked Seb at SZ why he didnt lock my tune?
His response, was that he had nothing to hide.
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I asked Seb at SZ why he didnt lock my tune?
His response, was that he had nothing to hide.
I agree with that mentality, I don't lock tunes either
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This is the good end of the story...

This morning I have received the unlocked tune!

I think that UpRev understood that I am far to any ProTuner. So I can not made any competition on any IP.

Good UpRev! I continue to use it on my little adjustment!!


....and....

....this Topic is useful to understand the work around a tune, in aspects that someone can not to know....


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This is the good end of the story...

This morning I have received the unlocked tune!

I think that UpRev understood that I am far to any ProTuner. So I can not made any competition on any IP.

Good UpRev! I continue to use it on my little adjustment!!


....and....

....this Topic is useful to understand the work around a tune, in aspects that someone can not to know....



huh?





....prego!
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