Mine's Motorsport VX-Rom vs Osiris vs any other ECU reflash

Sh0velMan · 06-19-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

Is your Z reflashed, if so which one did you use?

I run UpRev with a tuner cable so that I can change my own ROM at will.

I may switch to ECU Tek in the future if there are dyno proven results that they are better at getting power than Uprev, but that remains to be seen.

If I were just starting out and had no interest in being able to tune my own car, I would probably go with ECU Tek simply for the extra features they already offer.

Chuck33079 · 06-19-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment.

Actually it isn't. Depending on the vendor, you're looking at around $500-1000. Most tuners can also email you updated tune files if necessary. Will Mine's do it without another check? Even if they did, the downtime would be an issue for me. And how would you get a dyno tune for your specific conditions if you have to send the ECU to Japan?

Dynotronics1 · 06-19-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

I don't want to switch the maps using my cruise control button...simple, that's my personal preference. That's not the type of product I am looking for. The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment and not to many shops know how to tune it. They are a England based company, ok..Mine's has been able to map it without the cruise control map switching. The Mine's VX Rom will work on US 370z's.

EcuTek Tuning GB with cable, and free shipping= 750.00$

This includes all your calibrations(tuning), with lifetime updates, your license, and the interface cable.

If you prefer not to change maps via cruise stalk, there will be options for that, so that's an easy issue

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

This isn't accurate. Dynotronics will sell you a license, cable and e-tuned ROM (you take logs and send them in for adjustments) for $950.

If there is a tuner local, you can likely get a dyno tune for around the same, give or take.

You can definitely get an UpRev tune for less than $1k.

I check local shops they use the Osiris product. I'm waiting on them to respond about the ECU Tek and Up Rev products.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the insight, I was just looking to see if anyone had any of the 3 ECU's that could speak on their personal experiences.

theDreamer · 06-19-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

It's my personal preference, I don't want to do that. Period.

Then don't use it, my car uses Uprev and we never enabled the cruise control option. I have a single tune.
Also, you seem to be stuck on this Mine's is the "best" idea. Which is fair for some cars they work on, but the z34 does not seem to be one. Especially this ECU reflash. It sounds more like a canned tune, adjusting preset options to increase performance.

This will never match the ability of Uprev or ECUtech on a dyno or street. Now if you were in Japan I would say go to TS, Mine's, etc for a tune because they can see your car and tune onsite see different parameters. Or better yet, just fly Smokey over and have him do it: Smoky Nagata of Top Secret Japan brings his tuning talents to Houston!

Chuck33079 · 06-19-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

Rev limiter has been increased from 6600rpm to 7000rpm

Um, my 370's rev limiter is set at 7500 by Nissan. Something's not right here.

theDreamer · 06-19-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Um, my 370's rev limiter is set at 7500 by Nissan. Something's not right here.

It honestly sounds like Mine's is selling a generic canned tune upgrade, that change is for a VQ3.5de motor.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1

EcuTek Tuning GB with cable, and free shipping= 750.00$

This includes all your calibrations(tuning), with lifetime updates, your license, and the interface cable.

If you prefer not to change maps via cruise stalk, there will be options for that, so that's an easy issue

Ok this sounds cool...So I would send the list of current mods to the dealer and they will send me a map to upload the new data and as I add more mods they will send me new maps? Is this correct?

Chuck33079 · 06-19-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

Ok this sounds cool...So I would send the list of current mods to the dealer and they will send me a map to upload the new data and as I add more mods they will send me new maps? Is this correct?

Basically. You'll have to do some data logging and send them results, and then they tweak the map based on how your car is responding.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Then don't use it, my car uses Uprev and we never enabled the cruise control option. I have a single tune.
Also, you seem to be stuck on this Mine's is the "best" idea. Which is fair for some cars they work on, but the z34 does not seem to be one. Especially this ECU reflash. It sounds more like a canned tune, adjusting preset options to increase performance.

This will never match the ability of Uprev or ECUtech on a dyno or street. Now if you were in Japan I would say go to TS, Mine's, etc for a tune because they can see your car and tune onsite see different parameters. Or better yet, just fly Smokey over and have him do it: Smoky Nagata of Top Secret Japan brings his tuning talents to Houston!

Ok so you direct experience with Uprev, question, in reference to the changes from stock to using the Uprev what did you notice? Are you seeing better response, better gas mileage, in your opinion what is the most significant change?

Sh0velMan · 06-19-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

I check local shops they use the Osiris product. I'm waiting on them to respond about the ECU Tek and Up Rev products.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the insight, I was just looking to see if anyone had any of the 3 ECU's that could speak on their personal experiences.

UpRev = Osiris. Just so we're clear.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Basically. You'll have to do some data logging and send them results, and then they tweak the map based on how your car is responding.

So I get the car on a dyno send them the results based on the mods I have they then analyze the data and send me a new map?

Don't get me wrong totally understand the benefit of getting the car tuned along with the ECU at a shop, I just want to hear people's personal experiences with the products they have. Everyone drives differently what might be good for you and I may not be good for others. I'm just trying to get peoples input on there experiences. I do appreciate the info thought.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

UpRev = Osiris. Just so we're clear.

Ok, gotcha, I was unaware of that..thanks

Chuck33079 · 06-19-2013, 10:50 AM

On the dyno or on the street. I'd assume there's a good bit of street data logging, since not all of it is just tuning WOT. Other tuners offer the same type of service with Uprev, so you definitely have options there. I'm currently running Uprev, but very little of my experience will be applicable to you unless you're boosted.

saber · 06-19-2013, 10:52 AM

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The VX-ROMs currently lined up here are only for Japanese specs models.
For inquiries about the VX-ROMs for overseas specs or models, please contact us.

Mine's VX-ROM

Only person I saw with Mine's ECU was in Thailand, the opinions and thoughts are a little generic: My 370Z Branew n' Mine's ECU

It looks like you are already, but I'd knock Mine's off of your list. It's a bit extreme to have in the US...anything goes wrong, you're SOL out here with no support.

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