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Originally Posted by JARblue My money's on EcuTek It's pretty new so there's limited results information available and minimal dyno charts, if that's what you need. I'm currently in the

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Old 06-19-2013, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My money's on EcuTek

It's pretty new so there's limited results information available and minimal dyno charts, if that's what you need. I'm currently in the drive cycle of my EcuTek tune on mostly stock Z and still data logging the car for fine tuning. I will post dyno sheets once we get the tune finished and find the time to dyno, but that probably won't be until the end of the summer. There is also a slow adoption with the forced induction crowd - people are understandably hesitant to test out new software on their TT or SC setup.

UpRev is probably the most popular tune for the 370Z. It has been around for a number of years, but it can't do quite everything that EcuTek can (like VVEL adjustments). FWIW, my tuner uses both and claims that EcuTek > UpRev.

Ok so, you don't have any direct experience or insight on the product either? Just from what you heard or other threads. I'm looking for personal experience or hard data to compare the two. I can't seem to find a solid answer. I'm not going to just follow the leader.

I don't want to use UpRev's switchable maps via the cruise control button.

I did see a post for a EcuTek RaceRom that produced 15-20 hp with the below mods;

HKS Intakes and muffler delete.

The reflash just changed;

1. Raised Rev Limiter
2. Speed Limiter Removed
3. Fuel Map Changes
4. Using EcuTek's RaceRom Ignition Timing Control

The Orisis ECU changes;

•Up to 5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles < NOT COOL
•Idle RPM
•Speed Limiter
•Electronic Throttle Control to achieve Wide Open Throttle at all speeds.
•Rev Limiter
•DTC disable
•AFR Targets
•Fuel Compensation
•Ignition Timing Advance
•Cam Phasing for equipped vehicles.

The Mine's VX Rom changes;

Electronic throttle data has been changed
CVTC (Continuous Valve Timing Control) has been changed
Speed Limiter Control has been changed
Rev limiter has been increased from 6600rpm to 7000rpm
Fuel map has been changed
Injection and ignition timing has been reset
Learning and emission control has been retained
Fuel economy and throttle response have been increased

Again I'm looking for numbers and personal experiences with any ECU.
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Ok so, you don't have any direct experience or insight on the product either? Just from what you heard or other threads. I'm looking for personal experience or hard data to compare the two. I can't seem to find a solid answer. I'm not going to just follow the leader.

I don't want to use UpRev's switchable maps via the cruise control button.

I did see a post for a EcuTek RaceRom that produced 15-20 hp with the below mods;

HKS Intakes and muffler delete.

The reflash just changed;

1. Raised Rev Limiter
2. Speed Limiter Removed
3. Fuel Map Changes
4. Using EcuTek's RaceRom Ignition Timing Control

The Orisis ECU changes;

•Up to 5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles < NOT COOL
•Idle RPM
•Speed Limiter
•Electronic Throttle Control to achieve Wide Open Throttle at all speeds.
•Rev Limiter
•DTC disable
•AFR Targets
•Fuel Compensation
•Ignition Timing Advance
•Cam Phasing for equipped vehicles.

The Mine's VX Rom changes;

Electronic throttle data has been changed
CVTC (Continuous Valve Timing Control) has been changed
Speed Limiter Control has been changed
Rev limiter has been increased from 6600rpm to 7000rpm
Fuel map has been changed
Injection and ignition timing has been reset
Learning and emission control has been retained
Fuel economy and throttle response have been increased

Again I'm looking for numbers and personal experiences with any ECU.

All of the things listed on the 'VX Rom' list minus the VTC control can be done right now in UpRev (Osiris) and tuned to whatever you want. Ie, it's not FROM RPM to RPM. It's whatever RPM you want.

All of those things (including VTC) can currently be done on ECU Tek.

Map switching on UpRev (and likely on ECU Tek once implemented) is done with the cruise control buttons because that's the only built-in input method available to perform the switching. How else would you do it? There aren't any other readily available inputs built into factory switchgear.
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All of the things listed on the 'VX Rom' list minus the VTC control can be done right now in UpRev (Osiris) and tuned to whatever you want. Ie, it's not FROM RPM to RPM. It's whatever RPM you want.

All of those things (including VTC) can currently be done on ECU Tek.

Map switching on UpRev (and likely on ECU Tek once implemented) is done with the cruise control buttons because that's the only built-in input method available to perform the switching. How else would you do it? There aren't any other readily available inputs built into factory switchgear.

I don't want to switch the maps using my cruise control button...simple, that's my personal preference. That's not the type of product I am looking for. The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment and not to many shops know how to tune it. They are a England based company, ok..Mine's has been able to map it without the cruise control map switching. The Mine's VX Rom will work on US 370z's.
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I don't want to switch the maps using my cruise control button...simple, that's my personal preference. That's not the type of product I am looking for. The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment and not to many shops know how to tune it. They are a England based company, ok..Mine's has been able to map it without the cruise control map switching. The Mine's VX Rom will work on US 370z's.
This isn't accurate. Dynotronics will sell you a license, cable and e-tuned ROM (you take logs and send them in for adjustments) for $950.

If there is a tuner local, you can likely get a dyno tune for around the same, give or take.

You can definitely get an UpRev tune for less than $1k.
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This isn't accurate. Dynotronics will sell you a license, cable and e-tuned ROM (you take logs and send them in for adjustments) for $950.

If there is a tuner local, you can likely get a dyno tune for around the same, give or take.

You can definitely get an UpRev tune for less than $1k.
I check local shops they use the Osiris product. I'm waiting on them to respond about the ECU Tek and Up Rev products.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the insight, I was just looking to see if anyone had any of the 3 ECU's that could speak on their personal experiences.
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I check local shops they use the Osiris product. I'm waiting on them to respond about the ECU Tek and Up Rev products.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the insight, I was just looking to see if anyone had any of the 3 ECU's that could speak on their personal experiences.

UpRev = Osiris. Just so we're clear.
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UpRev = Osiris. Just so we're clear.
Ok, gotcha, I was unaware of that..thanks
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The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment.
Actually it isn't. Depending on the vendor, you're looking at around $500-1000. Most tuners can also email you updated tune files if necessary. Will Mine's do it without another check? Even if they did, the downtime would be an issue for me. And how would you get a dyno tune for your specific conditions if you have to send the ECU to Japan?
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I don't want to switch the maps using my cruise control button...simple, that's my personal preference. That's not the type of product I am looking for. The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment and not to many shops know how to tune it. They are a England based company, ok..Mine's has been able to map it without the cruise control map switching. The Mine's VX Rom will work on US 370z's.
EcuTek Tuning GB with cable, and free shipping= 750.00$

This includes all your calibrations(tuning), with lifetime updates, your license, and the interface cable.

If you prefer not to change maps via cruise stalk, there will be options for that, so that's an easy issue
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EcuTek Tuning GB with cable, and free shipping= 750.00$

This includes all your calibrations(tuning), with lifetime updates, your license, and the interface cable.

If you prefer not to change maps via cruise stalk, there will be options for that, so that's an easy issue
Ok this sounds cool...So I would send the list of current mods to the dealer and they will send me a map to upload the new data and as I add more mods they will send me new maps? Is this correct?
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Ok this sounds cool...So I would send the list of current mods to the dealer and they will send me a map to upload the new data and as I add more mods they will send me new maps? Is this correct?
Basically. You'll have to do some data logging and send them results, and then they tweak the map based on how your car is responding.
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Basically. You'll have to do some data logging and send them results, and then they tweak the map based on how your car is responding.
So I get the car on a dyno send them the results based on the mods I have they then analyze the data and send me a new map?

Don't get me wrong totally understand the benefit of getting the car tuned along with the ECU at a shop, I just want to hear people's personal experiences with the products they have. Everyone drives differently what might be good for you and I may not be good for others. I'm just trying to get peoples input on there experiences. I do appreciate the info thought.
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I don't want to switch the maps using my cruise control button...simple, that's my personal preference. That's not the type of product I am looking for. The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment and not to many shops know how to tune it. They are a England based company, ok..Mine's has been able to map it without the cruise control map switching. The Mine's VX Rom will work on US 370z's.
Like it was mentioned before you don't lose any functions for the cruise control. It is an option I guess you could say I want a map that is fuel efficient and one for the track. I like the dual mapping as I have one for just n/a and one for when I am running nitrous. It has been so long since I have been home but I am pretty sure you have to hold a button down at the same time with cruise control and you will see 1 flash or 2 flashes that designate which map you are running. So with that said no accidental map switching while driving. Lots of threads on here with actual users on both Uprev and Ecu Tek platforms, I am sure you can find some good information using the search engine.
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Like it was mentioned before you don't lose any functions for the cruise control. It is an option I guess you could say I want a map that is fuel efficient and one for the track. I like the dual mapping as I have one for just n/a and one for when I am running nitrous. It has been so long since I have been home but I am pretty sure you have to hold a button down at the same time with cruise control and you will see 1 flash or 2 flashes that designate which map you are running. So with that said no accidental map switching while driving. Lots of threads on here with actual users on both Uprev and Ecu Tek platforms, I am sure you can find some good information using the search engine.
Thanks for the info. Per a previous response I would opt out of switching the maps for the cruise control and run just one map all the time. When you did run the NA what was one of the most significant changes you noticed on your car?
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Thanks for the info. Per a previous response I would opt out of switching the maps for the cruise control and run just one map all the time. When you did run the NA what was one of the most significant changes you noticed on your car?
Well I'm not quite sure how to answer this as I don't know specifically what your asking? I was running rich before my tune and the tune was able to get my afr to where it needed to be with the parts I had as well as smoothing out a few dips in the power band. The reason I have two is b/c the timing has to be retarded for when I am spraying which is my track application and occasional spirited driving along with other variables when adding nitrous through the motor. I just didn't want the cruise control factor to be the reason for not going uprev. In reality either software you pick, it will come down to the guy tuning your vehicle. The first time I had it done, it was a bust and I got ripped off. Second time was better but not where it needed to be b/c of lack of experience. Take it to a reputable shop, not just any shop but one that deals with our specific car. When my build is done my car is going to GA home of Z1 which I am excited about. Just remember going all N/a will only get you so far as there is still much to be found in cracking this motor.
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