Retune with Takedas
 

Well like I promised my retune is this Wednesday @1030 well see how these compare to the Gen3's
I had the Gen3's and tuned made 298 WHP and 235 WTRQ

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I've had Takedas for a couple months and I feel like they lagged a little on low end compared to stock even after resetting the ECU.

Also, since you had GenIIIs I imagine your duct was already cut when you put the Takedas in. I wonder if this makes a difference...

Funny cause I reset mine an don't fell I lost any low-end will see tho

Well have to wait two weeks
When the dealer reflashed the car to stock the used a revised update
My rom now ends in D and UPREV has not seen that ROM yet so we had
to dump the file and send it off to UPREV

2 weeks, damn thats a long time to wait... very interested in the new numbers

I'm interested in your results as well. I am thinking about this intake since these filters don't need re-oiling.

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I've been running on Z1 post MAFs with K&N. With Uprev and increased fan speeds no throttle lag running the mountains or sitting in traffic. If I were you id save up for oil cooler or a proper CAI ie. stillen Gen 3 or Injen.

Interested in results, since I have the same.

This is a proper CAI. It's the Takeda long tube.

Subb'd cause I run Takeda Long Tubes and want to see stillen cry. And idk what fxroar is talking about, cause a proper cai is what? An intake that gets cold air? well mine sits right in my grill so thats as cold as I can get it without strapping an AC to it.

You can see them a bit in this picture:
http://www.the370z.com/members/sgtgo...light-work.jpg

Nothing on this thread was specified if this was SRI or CAI. I assumed SRI since that's the only Takeda intake that I know of. Obviously you wouldn't know what Im talking about since my post was based on assumptions. Anyways.. I'm interested to see how this is compared to the stillen.

I gotchya. Nope they are called Takeda Attack CAI's and are the long tube version.

http://www.the370z.com/members/sgtgo...tty-spiffy.jpg

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Looking good! So who's first to do a dyno comparo? Lol

Mythbuster... CAI = No real HP gains.... its been tested with a fan, with direct cool, with an extended pipe going to a cold source... Actually the testing determined that the HP was better with stock intake. Oiled filters vs. non-oil was also a flop. I have AEM CAI and it sounds good and looks good but that is about it.

Beating that dead horse again...

EDIT: Usual linking isn't working, motoIQ did a decent comparison should be the top result.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=370z%...0dyno%20motoiq

There are many more independent dyno's but I thought this was most thorough. Certainly not the most amazing gains but an improvement over stock.

Cool, looks like these things are putting down good numbers.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/70920-...ing-uprev.html

Are you saying that people are lying about there dyno results?? There are numerous reports of HP gains of 10-15whp over stock. How is this not a gain.....

(Waiting anxiously for a response..) :eekdance:

There are a couple here who are on their own agenda with CAI's. 99.9% of us have shown large gains. I'm just waiting for these results.

I think that people forget that the acronym CAI stands for COLD air intake

Of course you are going to make more power , cold air is more dense than hot air.:icon14:

^ I have yet to see proof that a CAI produces lower IAT than our stock intakes...:stirthepot:

Seriously though, I would like to see proof if they do. Smoother air I can buy into more easily but that doesn't make a lot of difference until very high rpms. Sound and looks should be the dominating factors when going with a CAI.

If you guys need proof like that to justify CAI I suggest a easier game like checkers maybe.

I never said some gains weren't possible, but it is not because the air is significantly COLDER versus stock as you claim...:rolleyes:

Show me all the high performace cars that come with an aftermarket style CAI from the factory...the automotive engineers all around the world didn't screw the pooch that bad.

I'm not hatin' on CAI either. I have had them on my previous vehicles.

I take it you aren't an engineer? And for the record I whoop a$$ at checkers btw :tup:

Back on topic now...still looking forward to results OP.

The problem is you guys need so much reassurance about products and what they do I'm surprised anything get sold,And I'm not a engineer but have been working on cars for a living for 28 years and don't need to be told what is what or any reassurance on what works and what doesn't my Rep and opinion in this community speak for them selves.

The thing about our cars is the stock filter location gets poor airflow... just like our brakes, and the diff, lol... Alot of muscle cars, higher end car, Vipers, Z06 have ram air, which I guess you could say is like a CAI...

I can see the shorty intakes for our cars aren't really going to be any better than stock. But the intakes that fit over the crash bar, or the other style that fit down into the wheel well definitely make power. I don't see why people are still confused about this when it has been dyno proven...

it doesn't! What it DOES do is it limits the restriction and turbulence of air flow. Stock intake tubes have ribbing type plastic therefore creates air turbulence, also it doesn't have smooth air flow into the upper intake manifold. Most of the cold air intakes are promoting cold air intake, but what it is really accomplishing is smooth air transition from filter to manifold. No ribbed edges and no turbulence creates even air flow.

There's nothing wrong with a little reassurance before you spend a good chunk of cash. If no one needed reassurance then there's no point in ever dynoing a car...just data log your A/F ratio's while you drive around town and adjust the maps accordingly. No need to prove your HP gains to anyone and say "just trust me".

I'm not doubting your rep, automotive experience, or ability to work on cars but the physics has to make sense for a claim to hold water (or in this case air).

HP gains are possible with a CAI but NOT because the air coming in is any COLDER. That's a marketing ploy that just appears logical.

I'm gonna stop repeating myself now. My apologies to the OP for derailing further, happy Sunday!

Please don't make another one of these, it was closed for a reason.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-hp-gains.html

or this

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ir-intake.html

Don't be another GSXR.

The G3 and Takeda HP increase are probably result of the ram air effect more than "cold air" (especially on g35/37).

That being said cold air does have an effect. In this case cold air being ambient temperature vs engine bay temperature. Cold air is dense due to the molecules low energy level vs warm air whose molecules are more active. The higher volume of air entering your throttle bodies is sensed by your MAF which tells your ECU to increase the amount of fuel thus more HP. In an essence same thing forced induction does forcing MORE air molecules into the system only to a much larger scale.

And before you start trying to poke your chest out being you are an "engineer" I have a degree in aeronautical engineering... :tup:

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:facepalm:...I think we're done discussing this, you guys are missing the entire point I was trying to make. Please PM me if you'd like to side bar.

I hope the OP comes back with dyno charts soon so we can bring this thread back on topic.

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Yeah, if you guys could cut it out before I have to clean the thread ...

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...6-32285497.jpg

WOW looks like I missed alot , LOL

Well I will be on the dyno tomorrow at 1030 :)

Looking forward to it. Post results ASAP!!!!!

No results ;( was on my way home from work yesterday and so dumb lady tried to make het
own lane ( I was sitting at a red light) and she took my bumper off with he car
might be time to let my cat go after all I have been through with this damn car horrible CARMA

WTF... The world is full of incomprehensible idiots.

Way to go lady... keeping the suspense alive

She probably worked for Stillen........... :shakes head: