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Me? I'm just excited that there is a new development in the tuning game!
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Can u PM me pricing and requirements to become a pro tuner(dealer). Trying to get my tuner some information!
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That for me or JV? We are both master tuners, but its his thread
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That for me or JV? We are both master tuners, but its his thread
Don't think it matters.

If they have nothing right now and want to become just a 370Z tuner it's about $2000 for the 370Z Tuning software + EcuTek Cable..

When you purchase the software you'll need to buy $1250 with of programming liceneses.


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Sometimes JV comes off as a bit harsh, but don't let that put you off his work, or by extension, EcuTek. John is one of the better tuners in the business, and makes up for his lack of people skills where it counts. ...
Perhaps "jackass" was not the best word to use (although, according to you and some other posts in this thread, it's probably accurate ). "Scammer" would probably have been a better word. The way he dodges the questions and dismisses requests for evidence reminds me a lot of HHO proponents and other scammers.

Apparently he is not a scammer (EcuTek gets plenty of good reviews for their other tuning product and I'll take your word for it that he knows what he's doing) but he sure sounds like one to me. I stand by my recommendation to find someone else to handle PR.
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Don't think it matters.

If they have nothing right now and want to become just a 370Z tuner it's about $2000 for the 370Z Tuning software + EcuTek Cable..

When you purchase the software you'll need to buy $1250 with of programming liceneses.


So $3300

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Perhaps "jackass" was not the best word to use (although, according to you and some other posts in this thread, it's probably accurate ). "Scammer" would probably have been a better word. The way he dodges the questions and dismisses requests for evidence reminds me a lot of HHO proponents and other scammers.

Apparently he is not a scammer (EcuTek gets plenty of good reviews for their other tuning product and I'll take your word for it that he knows what he's doing) but he sure sounds like one to me. I stand by my recommendation to find someone else to handle PR.

I'm not going to kiss *** or post datalogs of my work.

If anyone wants to see datalogs, they can purchase the tune and have a look for themselves.

Again, if what I've posted isn't enough.. don't buy it.. But there's plenty of people already lined up to get tunes so you can wait to see the results from them.

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Again, if what I've posted isn't enough.. don't buy it.. But there's plenty of people already lined up to get tunes so you can wait to see the results from them.

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If anyone wants to see datalogs, they can purchase the tune and have a look for themselves.

Again, if what I've posted isn't enough.. don't buy it.. But there's plenty of people already lined up to get tunes so you can wait to see the results from them.

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Both of you are Clearly mistaken then if you think people are asking questions to have their "asses kissed". That's just as immature as completely ignoring valid questions posed about your product.

You come on here saying you have a vastly superior product (which you very well might, no one is denying the potential) yet Zero proof to the end user accept your word, and the fact that others are getting in line. That's all well and good for the guy who Hasn't been tuned yet. But as it was stated before, you have competition, UpRev. Who has been in the market already for years and has done several Zs. We are asking as users that have already had tune A, that if tune B is better, and we will most definitely want it, to see proof of HOW it is better before spending the same amount from tune A all over again.

Now again, you say you have a superior product, that is Better than the competition. Yet you will provide zero proof or evidence to support that claim. On top of that, you get an attitude and talk down to members asking for you to post some sort of evidence and comparison. But as of yet, there is nothing. You've posted a gain over a STOCK 370Z. That's nice, but that's not any different than what UpRev gives you. So as it stands right now, you are on a level playing field. There's been nothing proven that shows your product is superior. Again, this is not saying that it may not be, but that as of yet, there is no evidence to substantiate this claim.

If you didn't have the numbers yet, then say so. And people would wait for reviews and build threads. But your advertising it is better, and then blatantly refuse to respond to direct questions paints a bad picture. If the software is good to go to the market, you've obviously Tested it on a Z correct? All of the features you claim you can control would have had to be given a basic quality assurance test on some car before you give it to the people... right? So where is that data? Cause I guarantee you, if you take an UpRev tuned car, and put your software on it, and still make more gains Safely, you'll have people knocking down your door to get it. Instead, you insult the people whom you hope to gain the business of. Not a good way of attracting customers...
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So I had the chance to meet Visconti today and talk to him about the ECUtek software along with him showing me the software and what it means for our platform.

First the man. Visconti is actually a nice person regardless of the devil some of us have made him out to be and seems to know his sh!t quite well. He just seems to come across as what people think of when they think of a stereotypical engineer, slightly egotistical and a little on the condescending side. No offense Visconti.

Now the important part, the software. All I can say is wow. First the part that is just "nice" is that many of the tables that we already have in Uprev but use meaningless numbers actually have meaningful values (ie. instead of 32560 it would actually display the "requested torque" value in Newton-Meters).

Next ECUtek stops the ECU from switching between the 7 different timing strategies that it has and instead forces it to use a single timing table therfore providing predictable control of timing while still retaining knock protection.

The promising part is the valve timing and lift tables. From what I got out of Visconti, there is still development left to be done with the VVEL system. Sounded like ECUtek is saving this for last in the event that they accidently crash the valves into the pistons and have to rebuild the motor.

Now what makes ECUtek far superior to UpRev (atleast IMO):
There are user definable tables that are available for extra things. It also allows for new sensors to be swapped in place of other "unnecessary" (emissions, etc.) sensors. The same can be done with output type devices. This would obviously benefit the FI guys more than us NA guys but it's still impressive.

A few examples would be adding an ethanol/gas ratio sensor and then adjusting boost pressure based on ethanol content. Also no lift to shift could easily be accomplished by just creating custom tables and then triggering a table to alter the necessary engine settings. Another possibility is an ECU based boost controller. The possibilities are endless in my opinion.

The real key to all this custom functionality is the tuner as I would liken this more to computer programming than just changing table entries.

fwiw I didn't get tuned as ECUtek doesn't support my ECU yet so don't bother asking if I got any gains from just going to ECUtek.

If I got anything wrong Visconti just let me know and I can edit the post.
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Both of you are Clearly mistaken then if you think people are asking questions to have their "asses kissed". That's just as immature as completely ignoring valid questions posed about your product.

You come on here saying you have a vastly superior product (which you very well might, no one is denying the potential) yet Zero proof to the end user accept your word, and the fact that others are getting in line. That's all well and good for the guy who Hasn't been tuned yet. But as it was stated before, you have competition, UpRev. Who has been in the market already for years and has done several Zs. We are asking as users that have already had tune A, that if tune B is better, and we will most definitely want it, to see proof of HOW it is better before spending the same amount from tune A all over again.

Now again, you say you have a superior product, that is Better than the competition. Yet you will provide zero proof or evidence to support that claim. On top of that, you get an attitude and talk down to members asking for you to post some sort of evidence and comparison. But as of yet, there is nothing. You've posted a gain over a STOCK 370Z. That's nice, but that's not any different than what UpRev gives you. So as it stands right now, you are on a level playing field. There's been nothing proven that shows your product is superior. Again, this is not saying that it may not be, but that as of yet, there is no evidence to substantiate this claim.

If you didn't have the numbers yet, then say so. And people would wait for reviews and build threads. But your advertising it is better, and then blatantly refuse to respond to direct questions paints a bad picture. If the software is good to go to the market, you've obviously Tested it on a Z correct? All of the features you claim you can control would have had to be given a basic quality assurance test on some car before you give it to the people... right? So where is that data? Cause I guarantee you, if you take an UpRev tuned car, and put your software on it, and still make more gains Safely, you'll have people knocking down your door to get it. Instead, you insult the people whom you hope to gain the business of. Not a good way of attracting customers...
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Both of you are Clearly mistaken then if you think people are asking questions to have their "asses kissed". That's just as immature as completely ignoring valid questions posed about your product.

You come on here saying you have a vastly superior product (which you very well might, no one is denying the potential) yet Zero proof to the end user accept your word, and the fact that others are getting in line. That's all well and good for the guy who Hasn't been tuned yet. But as it was stated before, you have competition, UpRev. Who has been in the market already for years and has done several Zs. We are asking as users that have already had tune A, that if tune B is better, and we will most definitely want it, to see proof of HOW it is better before spending the same amount from tune A all over again.

Now again, you say you have a superior product, that is Better than the competition. Yet you will provide zero proof or evidence to support that claim. On top of that, you get an attitude and talk down to members asking for you to post some sort of evidence and comparison. But as of yet, there is nothing. You've posted a gain over a STOCK 370Z. That's nice, but that's not any different than what UpRev gives you. So as it stands right now, you are on a level playing field. There's been nothing proven that shows your product is superior. Again, this is not saying that it may not be, but that as of yet, there is no evidence to substantiate this claim.

If you didn't have the numbers yet, then say so. And people would wait for reviews and build threads. But your advertising it is better, and then blatantly refuse to respond to direct questions paints a bad picture. If the software is good to go to the market, you've obviously Tested it on a Z correct? All of the features you claim you can control would have had to be given a basic quality assurance test on some car before you give it to the people... right? So where is that data? Cause I guarantee you, if you take an UpRev tuned car, and put your software on it, and still make more gains Safely, you'll have people knocking down your door to get it. Instead, you insult the people whom you hope to gain the business of. Not a good way of attracting customers...
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