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Old 04-18-2013, 04:18 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #62 (permalink)
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End-user tuning isnt here right now.. it will be one day.

I think everyone should be able to buy the software for a fair price and tune their own car.

I'm pushing for this, trust me !

Anyways I'll be posting up some dyno number shortly

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And just for posterity for those who might not be as nimble with tuning and tweaking could some of the more experienced drivers lend some suggestions or maybe a reading list or something like that so that more of us can be experienced? I have done some research on my own but not willing, at this point, to mod/tune/tweak my ECU just yet. Just logging and looking and seeing at the moment. Would love any pointers in the right direction for myself and others. THANK YOU! :-)
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I'd like to let folks know that this thread isn't about end-user tuning software, it's about EcuTek's new 370z software.

Lets KEEP IT ON TOPIC!!

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In for more details, and not to start a fight between companies but how is Uprev doing VVEL wrong?
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In for more details, and not to start a fight between companies but how is Uprev doing VVEL wrong?
The tables they have shown in the software do effect the VVEL timing, but they are not the actual target tables..

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Is that a issue on these cars?

Normally cars have min/max values for tables like this to prevent such damage.

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Allegedly, it is possible to adjust valve timing to the point where physical contact is made between pistons and valves with Osiris, but hardly anyone has had a chance to play with it who isn't a pro tuner so details on all of this are sketchy.

It's something to run by the ECUTEK software designers -- to have a safe maximum advance or retard clearly delineated.
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Allegedly, it is possible to adjust valve timing to the point where physical contact is made between pistons and valves with Osiris, but hardly anyone has had a chance to play with it who isn't a pro tuner so details on all of this are sketchy.

It's something to run by the ECUTEK software designers -- to have a safe maximum advance or retard clearly delineated.
So I looked into this.

Your 100% correct , this is a issue but only with Orsiris.

The UpRev software is not adjusting the correct VVEL tables.. they are touching tables the effect MAX values , not target values..

When the limit tables are touched you are playing with fire.

EcuTek doesn't need to touch those tables because they have the correct tables in the software

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VVEL Tuning for all cars..

EcuTek actually has the correct maps in the ecu.

It's very different in the UpRev software.. very wrong.





You can find a list of EcuTek dealers on EcuTek.com

Not all EcuTek dealers will have the 370z software, and not all of them will have Nissan experience.

Right now only a few people have the software.. The list will be growing quickly



What settings do you mean.. for the trq table?



Yes the edit software is only for ProTuners right now, but EcuTek is looking into maybe making a end-user edit version.



The Nissan ECU has closed loop fuel, meaning you set the target A/F for a certain load point and the car will try it's get to reach that target.. This is how the ecu is from the factory, not EcuTek or UpRev thing.

On top of that these ecus have a VERY complex ignition control system which will make it seem the car tunes it selfs or adjusts..

Honestly I think Nissan makes it so confusing to try and prevent people from tuning them.

EcuTek has 100% control over timing, once its set, the car will run the same ignition timing over and over and over.. Well unless the car pulls timing from a Knock Event.




SRM?


Roger that. I was not claiming to have extensive knowledge on the subject, but I dabble a bit, lol. I am somewhat interested in what your solution has to offer, but I am neck deep in UPREV for my current build. I have been planning a motor build and may look into another solution if funds permit. I am anxious to see what your company's solution can do though........
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So I looked into this.

Your 100% correct , this is a issue but only with Orsiris.

The UpRev software is not adjusting the correct VVEL tables.. they are touching tables the effect MAX values , not target values..

When the limit tables are touched you are playing with fire.

EcuTek doesn't need to touch those tables because they have the correct tables in the software

-John
Ok -- excellent! Between that and spark advance tables that have more meaningful values this is looking to be a nice alternative to Osiris.

Looking forward to hearing more details -- and to hoping that software will be available to individuals, not just pro-tuners
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Ok -- excellent! Between that and spark advance tables that have more meaningful values this is looking to be a nice alternative to Osiris.

Looking forward to hearing more details -- and to hoping that software will be available to individuals, not just pro-tuners
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SynchroRev Matching - When guys change out their rear diffs it throws the calculations in the engine off and the rev matching will stop working.

2009 Nissan 370Z's SynchroRev Match Explained - Tech Dept. - Car Reviews - Car and Driver

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Just curious. It is something that is controlled by the ECM.

SRM does not stop working when you switch out the rear diff, I have changed my final drive to a 3.357 ,and mine works fine I use it all the time. Now granted it might be off a few hundred rpm give or take.

Jon when you took a ride in my car I was using it , It still might be something you can look into with the software for fine tuning it down the line.
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Yeah, I'm not sure if that's a TCM thing or ECM.
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Who are the authorized master tuners in So Cal?
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So when will we be able to buy and test your tune?
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