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What about the ability to dial in the SRM after changing gearing?

Yes it is ;)

VVEL Tuning for all cars..

EcuTek actually has the correct maps in the ecu.

It's very different in the UpRev software.. very wrong.



You can find a list of EcuTek dealers on EcuTek.com

Not all EcuTek dealers will have the 370z software, and not all of them will have Nissan experience.

Right now only a few people have the software.. The list will be growing quickly

What settings do you mean.. for the trq table?

Yes the edit software is only for ProTuners right now, but EcuTek is looking into maybe making a end-user edit version.

The Nissan ECU has closed loop fuel, meaning you set the target A/F for a certain load point and the car will try it's get to reach that target.. This is how the ecu is from the factory, not EcuTek or UpRev thing.

On top of that these ecus have a VERY complex ignition control system which will make it seem the car tunes it selfs or adjusts..

Honestly I think Nissan makes it so confusing to try and prevent people from tuning them.

EcuTek has 100% control over timing, once its set, the car will run the same ignition timing over and over and over.. Well unless the car pulls timing from a Knock Event.


SRM?

SynchroRev Matching - When guys change out their rear diffs it throws the calculations in the engine off and the rev matching will stop working.

2009 Nissan 370Z's SynchroRev Match Explained - Tech Dept. - Car Reviews - Car and Driver

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/66001-...brate-srm.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...r-swap-10.html


Just curious. It is something that is controlled by the ECM.

I can look into it..

I'll ask Master Phil what he thinks and get back to you

John

What about the cost part of my question...??


If this is as improved over UpRev as you claim, really interested in seeing the benefits of it.

Ill also add that I would only really be interested if it was available to the end users. And not some limited version.

If the program was available and can do what you say then I am willing to bet you are going to have a lot of business.

Sounds like you may be on to something, but yeah, no-can-do if there's not a FULLY FEATURED end-user version. I'll not be tethered to a "pro tuner". Those shops come and go with the wind and I don't want to pay more money every time a small tuning change is needed. To say nothing of having to trailer the damned car in every time.

I can only imagine the amount of knowledge you need to possess to be a self tuner, and not having it myself I :bowdown: to you guys.

But as an owner looking to do this on my own, is it even possible? Without the experience/know-how?

I'm definitely not skilled like a tuner at say, UpRev (the shop) or Z1 or GTM are. That said, I can keep an AFR within a desired range, adjust timing as needed, tweak rev or speed limits, adjust cooling fan profiles to suit my needs, hide codes if needed, run logs including tracing them to the tables themselves...

If I can't do any of that, it isn't worth it to me to invest in switching tuning solutions, as UpRev (the software company and shop) has been very, very good to me, so it'll have to be one hell of a compelling product. Without the ability to handle this routine (to me) stuff, it isn't compelling at all..

I don't understand why the hate about none end user tune..

Just FYI, dealers of ECUTEK means they are professionals... So when you go to ECUTEK you will know that your car is being tuned by a pro tuner that will put a smile on your face.
I was told that its not easy to be ECUTEK dealer, which made me more excited about it.

lol, from this statement I can tell that one or two things must be true of you:

1) You don't race.
2) You don't know enough about tuning to have any desire to do it yourself.
3) You aren't a "Do it yourself" kind of person.


All of these things are fine, but that's why you don't understand the "hate", as you put it.

Someone like me being told I must take my car to someone else in order to get my tune adjusted rubs me in the wrong way at every level. No one touches my car but me, with a few exceptions (welding, for example). Also, being at someone else's mercy as far as what I do with the tune? Yeah, not going to happen. The first time a "tuner" told me "No, I'm not going to do that in your tune, I know better than you, you'll just have to trust me" I knew I had to have my own cable and software. ;)

Anyway, no hate towards ECUTek, just hope they decide to make their software available to the private individual. :)

There are many of us who like to be able to have access to the tunes in our vehicles. The fact that there is no end user support locks you into a tuner and if you change your vehicle you must go back to the tuner to get changes (say even minor things like wheel size changes).

ECUTEK can not possibly control everyone they certify, what does certifying entitle? They bring all the possible dealers into a classroom setting and pour over the material? Even if that is done there is nothing stopping each dealer from becoming complacent with their tuning and not giving your car the best tunes that it can run.

If it is locked then us customers will have no other option but to smile and nod our heads and go on our way with it.

Its like buying a CD where you have to listen to the whole thing without skipping tracks over and over, if its locked in such a way that that is not possible you are kind of getting what you want, but say you get sick of one part or want to change it (again lets say your speedo) you have to pay $$ and set time aside to get this done.

Maybe a shitty analogy but its the first thing that came to mind. I would be ok with locked tunes from dealers, as long as the customer has the ability to see the stock tune and make changes. I do know the work that goes behind making a tune and keeping it locked to that particular dealer is the way to go. But the customer must be able to get something tangible for the price they are going to pay to be able to put this system on their vehicles.

I am also in the custom tuning business and the company I work with is setup very much in this way. Works well, allows customers to play with the system, yet get tunes from reputable tuners.

3 of them are correct,

I dont race, Im not a DIY guy, and I dont know anything about tuning.
I just do my own oil change and change brake parts and thats it. ;)

Any problem for not being one of those 3? :shakes head:

No? That's why I said "they're fine". :)

TO EACH HIS OWN! :tup: