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Originally Posted by FuszNissan Thanks all the software options they have are a bit confusing Cipher Osiris Etune What you want is Osiris Standard, which includes Cipher as well as

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What you want is Osiris Standard, which includes Cipher as well as three eTunes. That costs $700. If you're not going to do a real dyno tune, this makes more sense than Cobb (imo) because you actually send UpRev your data logs and they build you a map based on that data. That's pretty darn close to a proper dyno tune, I think. With Cobb, on the other hand, you just have to take their canned, one size fits all, staged maps. I think Cobb is a good option only if you're planning to use it in conjunction with a proper dyno tune.
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What you want is Osiris Standard, which includes Cipher as well as three eTunes. That costs $700. If you're not going to do a real dyno tune, this makes more sense than Cobb (imo) because you actually send UpRev your data logs and they build you a map based on that data. That's pretty darn close to a proper dyno tune, I think. With Cobb, on the other hand, you just have to take their canned, one size fits all, staged maps. I think Cobb is a good option only if you're planning to use it in conjunction with a proper dyno tune.
Cobb's website states that you can data logg and send your info to a tuner and get a better map via email. So that is why I was leaning towards cobb. Slimplicity aspect. I wanted to get clear info if this is ture. If not I proabbly will lean towards Revup
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Cobb's website states that you can data logg and send your info to a tuner and get a better map via email. So that is why I was leaning towards cobb. Slimplicity aspect. I wanted to get clear info if this is ture. If not I proabbly will lean towards Revup
Ah, yeah you're right. Looks like there's a subtle difference though. If I'm understanding their stie correctly, Cobb doesn't do the e-tune. You have to send your data to one of their licensed Pro-Tuners (like Sharif) for the e-tune. I also found this little blurb on their e-tune page, which I think is worth emphasizing:

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Please note: E-Tuning will typically not extract quite the same level of power as a custom dyno tune, since the tuner is not able to feel, hear and see what the car is doing, so the tuner typically builds in extra safety margin into the tune.
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What you want is Osiris Standard, which includes Cipher as well as three eTunes. That costs $700. If you're not going to do a real dyno tune, this makes more sense than Cobb (imo) because you actually send UpRev your data logs and they build you a map based on that data. That's pretty darn close to a proper dyno tune, I think. With Cobb, on the other hand, you just have to take their canned, one size fits all, staged maps. I think Cobb is a good option only if you're planning to use it in conjunction with a proper dyno tune.
I agree completely. I was thinking that myself. Dyno-tunes are car specific based on modifications. This is another way of getting clost to the same results.

I will add however, I will never get a mail order tune with an FI setup. Dyno-tuning is the only way.
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