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Here's what I'm trying to figure out. If you're going to get a dyno tune, is one really better than the other? I mean, if you're planning to use the canned maps, then I can see how one might be better. But if you're going to have a tuner custom tune your car on the dyno anyway, then what difference does it make? All the software is doing at that point is giving the tuner an interface to the ECU and allow him to modify the parameters. Do one of these software packages give tuners access to some parameters that the other doesn't? If so, then that would make one better than the other. But if both of them give the tuner access and control to the exact same parameters, then I wouldn't think it'd make a difference in terms of being able to get better gains out of one over the other.
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Here's what I'm trying to figure out. If you're going to get a dyno tune, is one really better than the other? I mean, if you're planning to use the canned maps, then I can see how one might be better. But if you're going to have a tuner custom tune your car on the dyno anyway, then what difference does it make? All the software is doing at that point is giving the tuner an interface to the ECU and allow him to modify the parameters. Do one of these software packages give tuners access to some parameters that the other doesn't? If so, then that would make one better than the other. But if both of them give the tuner access and control to the exact same parameters, then I wouldn't think it'd make a difference in terms of being able to get better gains out of one over the other.
I agree completely. I like, however, that the Cobb has a Valet setting. Wouldn't want some 16 year old blasting around, joy riding, in a $35k car with 300 at the wheels.
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I agree completely. I like, however, that the Cobb has a Valet setting. Wouldn't want some 16 year old blasting around, joy riding, in a $35k car with 300 at the wheels.
UPREV has 5 maps you can program into your CRUISE control button. You switch between them. VALET is one of them.

Cobb you need to hook up the device to switch maps.

Osiris Standard includes Cipher and utilizes the Cipher cable to reflash and communicate with the vehicle through the OBDII Diag Port. Osiris Standard also includes Map Switching allowing you to use different tunes for different situations and 3 eTune updates you can use at any time.

Osiris Standard is a licensed based system meaning your license will be transferred to the first ECU that is flashed. This vehicle can then be flashed as many times as the user wants, but the flash will not work on any different vehicles. One additional license can be purchased at a discount for enthusiasts that may have more than one vehicle, contact us for details.

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* Up to 5 Maps on cruise control equipped vehicles
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Here's what I'm trying to figure out. If you're going to get a dyno tune, is one really better than the other? I mean, if you're planning to use the canned maps, then I can see how one might be better. But if you're going to have a tuner custom tune your car on the dyno anyway, then what difference does it make? All the software is doing at that point is giving the tuner an interface to the ECU and allow him to modify the parameters. Do one of these software packages give tuners access to some parameters that the other doesn't? If so, then that would make one better than the other. But if both of them give the tuner access and control to the exact same parameters, then I wouldn't think it'd make a difference in terms of being able to get better gains out of one over the other.
The difference is the control the software has. The stock ECU in these newer Nissans is simply amazing. Leagues ahead of what the aftermarket builds as far as speed and capability.

We control more tables more accurately. We also give Pro Tuners and end user Tuners more access to additional features than anyone else. We also add features over time as customers have requirements that come up.

A Dyno Tune isn't just a dyno tune. If your tuner has more access and more absolute control the car will net more gain. Remember tuning isn't about power it's about efficiency. The more efficient you can make the motor run, the more power and the more mileage you'll net. One thing our customers have always raved about is the driveability. Anyone can add more fuel and push timing, but if you can't make the car drive better why bother? If I was spending $35k on a car, I wouldn't want it to drive like a busted old mid nineties turbo car.

It also depends on who your tuner is. We try and listen to feedback from customers as much as possible. We've cut off three of our Pro Tuners in the last 12 months because of customer complaints. If you look at our list of Pro Tuners you'll notice it grows constantly, and those names are some of the best in the industry.

As an aside, our software doesn't just work on the 350/370, G35/G37, Titan. it works on all Nissan and Infiniti vehicles that use the newer style ECU. We have customers with Versas, Sentras, Altimas, Patrols, Frontiers, Xterras, M35/45, FX35/45 running our software. No other company offers that kind of support for Nissan or Infiniti owners. Thats capability that no one else can offer, or even cares to offer. We also have Pro Tuners world wide and the list keeps growing.
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