I like the idea of more power with my built motor would love to have this on my car. On a stock motor I see your point I am sure it wall will be sorted out.

Finally happened :o

Excited to see just how much this will change things. Especially with those Jun cams.

Finally! can't wait to see the gains on NA :drool:

humm can I have that beer as I already blew my VVEL ?
hehe

*not by VVEL tuning related*

no, sorry. Not a retroactive offer. Has to be as a result of ******* around with this new tune.

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This is true for a bunch of the TT guys but us SC guys still have the ability to make a bit more power without approaching those limits. Nevermind the NA guys, if there are any gains to be made in that area of course.

Additionally I have spoken with Motion Lab Tuning and they are trying to get ahold of UpRev as well for news so they can get my car on the dyno and see what differences it will make. I'm sure they will jump in here whenever they get any news.

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Probably little if any. The car is setup to be very efficient NA. I think this is mostly a mod that will help the FI folks.

I'm hoping for even better drivability and the area under the curve to clean up. Maybe I can run 10lbs n make the same power instead of having to run 12lbs of boost.

I'm sure GTM is secretly testing this already :D

I hope so!

I hope some kinda professional can chime in here, so far 4 pages of guessing and hoping!

professional guesser here. im guessing we'll see about 500hp on n/a applications and close to 1000hp for fi applications.

youre welcome.

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You must be thrilled ur NA ride is gonna have 500hp!

:koolaidwall:

here's hoping there are NA gains to be had.

The professional guesser says u NA guys gonna have 500hp!!$

my guestimates are usually pretty accurate....give or take a few hundred hp.

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Lol!

*Begins furiously typing VVEL bragging posts on rival car forums*

We are looking forward to seeing the gains from the new VVEL tables when re-tuning one of our guys with a Stillen kit! We will try and get as much data as possible. Car should be on the dyno next week!

Thanks,
Alex Goodwin
AlexG@motionlabtuning.com

This sounds exciting.

I would assume the stock cam timing is already advanced enough to the point where there is not much to be gained in NA form, so I'm not sure how beneficial this is for NA applications.

isn't retarding the cam timing good for FI?

It is, which is exactly my point. VVEL tuning is probably only gonna be good for FI applications where control over the cam timing will allow tuning for less overlap.

great news

you're right. Some more fine tuning of the timing, lift and phasing might squeeze out little more power under the curve for NA. These engines are tuned for emissions, fuel efficiency and performance from the factory.

edit: the beta version does exist, just the email had not yet been sent.

Im sure all of the main stream companies you listed have the beta software as well. They probably won't post until the beta phase is over and they've had time to test the software. I was just simply letting the community know where uprev was at with vvel tuning. There are a few issues with the Rom files for pro tuners but when that is resolved we should have results coming in from across the country.

JTran has done 92 UpRev tunes so far this year. I assure you he is a "big customer".

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Not necessarily true.

Especially with freer flowing intake and exhaust -- remember, the VVEL is also factory tuned with emissions and gas mileage in mind.

Folks with FI will benefit the most, but we should see some nice gains NA as well.

When it comes to the Camshaft market there is a huge market. Evereything from Mild to Extreme na, and Fi. To assume nissan used really aggressive cams that can blanket everything is not really understanding the reason behind having a huge market of cams for various motors. This not only opens the market for cams but intake manifolds, valves, springs, P&P, and so forth. Cracking the VVEL is what most would consider the Unicorn of 370z for 5 years. Being able to adjust the exhaust lobes along with the intake lobes rewrites everything that is currently on market for the 370z. Building and tuning a motor is a science, not something that you throw together. THIS THE ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT EVERY AFTERMARKET MANUFACTER OF ENGINE PARTS FOR THE Z HAS BEEN WAITING ON.


TRUE HANDS OFF TO UPREV IF THIS TRUE. Honestly the person that cracked this, if there is one person or a handful that was dedicated, you sir/s/mam/s are a BOSS in my book.

Speaking With JUN they said they have messed a lot with the intake side of the motor has not seen gains from the intake side that is why they have made the exhaust side cams due to messing with the exhaust side and seeing gains. As of right now new valve springs and retainers are in the works to from JUN. When those are release higher profile cams will be made for our engines as well.

Yeah this is huge. All jokes aside this is something that opens the last door to the 370z..... This changes 90% of everthing that has come out and will only bring SO MUCH NEW STUFF TO THE Z PLATFORM!!! So freakin stoked. I had written off really going at this car aggressively towards an all-motor build. I can see it now, lumpy *** cam, gurgling at a light. Going to have a hard time sleeping for a couple of days.

Dont get me wrong, but if I can tune the radio station to anything, it is all motor music. This car IMO due to how smoothly it revs into the HIGHER rpms, has alot of potential. A good B&B, PNP, race header back to 3" exhaust, G3 intakes, fire breathing intake/exhaust cams, clutch/fly, underdrive pulley, and tune this is a whole new ball game for strip and drag.

IMO there is already a 1k HP Z on boost, this is only going to let the guys that are running lower numbers dial back the BAR and be more reliable while producing the same numbers. Which dont get me wrong is great in its own regards.

But, all-motor IMO, is what makes a good car, great.

Valves, springs, retainers, the list just keep going....

I am not saying this will ever trump a properly built boost, but a properly built NA will be just as fun. A blue moon only comes once in a life time.

I have the cams already just trying enough courage to get them installed here on guam

just an info that I got from Jared on the 13th Aug. copy/paste from my email.



No VVEL yet. We have one beta version that a few people have played with, but you have to be very careful because you CAN run the valves into the pistons with too much advance and lift at the same time (there is a interference safety table that should NOT be adjusted).

We're also still missing what controls the advance. It's much more active on these engines so it appears to be controlled by a formula not a table.

... Well... ****. Excitement rapidly fading...