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370Z Purist 10-12-2012 09:26 PM

I don't care so much about gains as responsiveness.

wifedrivenZ 10-12-2012 11:37 PM

I don't know how to answer that about responsiveness due to the fact I have not driven my car in 6 months then took it to the shop to get some parts put on. If anyone with an SC Z would like a ride and then they could judge.

LukasC 10-13-2012 02:01 PM

Anyone NA have plans of doing this?

370ZNISMO#704 10-13-2012 02:04 PM

In for dyno sheets.

FPenvy 10-13-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukasC (Post 1959839)
Anyone NA have plans of doing this?

I do once more research is done

LukasC 10-13-2012 04:36 PM

Talked to a local shop they have a z lined up that is NA to do some testing on! Ill let u guys know when i hear from them

Jordo! 10-13-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukasC (Post 1960015)
Talked to a local shop they have a z lined up that is NA to do some testing on! Ill let u guys know when i hear from them

Very cool.

See if you can get some details such as where valve overlap was changed and where lift was changed in the rev range.

Also, are these bolt-on modded Z's or bone stock? Breathing and exhaust mods will almost certainly make a difference.

LukasC 10-13-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1960065)
Very cool.

See if you can get some details such as where valve overlap was changed and where lift was changed in the rev range.

Also, are these bolt-on modded Z's or bone stock? Breathing and exhaust mods will almost certainly make a difference.

Not quite sure what kind of z he is messing with im sure it more than stock at least. The cars that go into this shop usually are not ur average delearship cars haha but idk for certain. We shall see and i will try and get those details once he gets with me

Nissanboy 10-13-2012 06:24 PM

I don't see how this could improve power on NA applications as the intake lift is already at it's maximum point (goes from 2mm to 11m lift) because of the eccentric cam being only so big on the VVEL ladder assembly and the overlap being precise as the rpms go up. I could see some very impressive gains on FI applications as everyone has already stated. Just like to give out my point of view

Jordo! 10-13-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissanboy (Post 1960100)
I don't see how this could improve power on NA applications as the intake lift is already at it's maximum point (goes from 2mm to 11m lift) because of the eccentric cam being only so big on the VVEL ladder assembly and the overlap being precise as the rpms go up. I could see some very impressive gains on FI applications as everyone has already stated. Just like to give out my point of view

I seem to recall an old chart from another forum that showed there was more lift possible...

I'll see if I can find the image and post it.

EDIT:

Here...

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...vel-curves.jpg

Rusty 10-13-2012 11:36 PM

So that chart is saying max is about .500" lift. But it's only using up to .450" lift. HMMMMMM You know how much duration there is?

BigT 10-16-2012 10:59 AM

Has anyone thought of our valvesprings? Can they handle any more lift, duration, and romp rate?

Nixlimited 10-16-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 1964531)
Has anyone thought of our valvesprings? Can they handle any more lift, duration, and romp rate?

I always thought the issue with springs was the decompression side rather than the compression side (e.g. float).

Rusty 10-16-2012 11:52 AM

Also coil bind. ;)

Jordo! 10-16-2012 01:44 PM

All empirical questions -- hopefully uprev has at least one or two motors they can risk destroying to find the limits...


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