Be Careful with UpRev in Mass

ANMVQ

Mostly u,, LOL

My opinion about this whole this was from experience. I have UPREV, I got a sticker, I have been in the car business for a LONG time, 20+ years. Just something about the "Facts" don't add up read them yourself "Again" and if you cant see the holes, then you should be posting this, and carrying it ON, Here's a question have "YOU" Contacted UPREV and asked them? Have you contacted GTM and asked them, Hell Vince even posted in here" ONCE" ( Why you think only once), Have you tried reaching out to him,. Sounds like no.. I know neither one of them live in MA, But I'm sure they could shed some light on things for you,,, An just IMO you should be going through Kaizen anyway.


And to Seymore post, He's 100% nobody acted you or personal said anything and you challenging people so say things "Face to Face" REALLY?? See that's why he said you sound like a young "KID", Just because someone you think you can trust told you something and other people( Most of the people in this thread) Have a different opinion doesnt mean they are attacking you,

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ChrisSlicks

I had no problem getting a sticker last year either but that doesn't mean anything since MA DOT is constantly updating their software.

Also no need to be a Kaizen fanboi just because that's where you happened to go. You have no personal experience with Dent Sport so why say that? You're acting rather immaturely for someone that has been "in the biz" for 20 years.

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ANMVQ

I got my sticker this year, 4 months ago. Still not to say nothing has changed but with this being the first anyone is hearing about his just makes it a little???

Don't assume I have "NO" Experiene with DSG, I knew those guys before they where even DSG, They Did ALOT of work for me with my EVO8, I even helped them with their S20 swap into their BMW( Used my EVO's stock Front mount) I was the FIRST perspn to run Bill's Custom Air intake for the EVO's.


Alex and Bill are both very good guys, I have had no issues with them at all. I wnet to Kaizen for other reasons, But IMO is just that IMO.. An Stating my oppion on something is acting immature.

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crystalline

I would like to add to this I have uprev, LTH and a sticker in MA.

Now it sounds like what is being stated is that if you run a custom (forced induction) set up and disable certain sensors to shut off reoccurring CELs then MA will fail you. I have no idea if that's true as I have no CELs or codes/systems disabled on in my car currently. I would guess that this makes sense, if MA now has a way to determine if certain systems were disabled to make it look like you have no CEL/systems not ready, they wouldn't pass you.

However, I don't think this situation applies to the majority of people who would be flashing uprev on a 370z as they would not need to disable any codes/systems to have the CEL off. And also if you ran a big custom set up why would you care? I see tons of cars with the R sticker at car shows, figured it was a badge of honor

ANMVQ

crystalline, You are 100% right on failing if you have certain sensors or codes shut off"Readiness codes" I can tell you on my tune I have no sesors or codes shut off, The only thing I had to do was rasie the limit of my MAP sensor for Boost. Most of the guys that have things shut off are running HFC's and TP's and have the 2nd O2 range shut off so not not to throw codes. Or some off the EVO guys years ago would run no EGR valves and have block off plates installed and that sensor shut down.

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ChrisSlicks

Could be. Problem is MA is starting to turn into a mini CA as far as emissions go. They have an enforcement division that is quite brutal and if you get caught violating federal or state emission laws (e.g. removing cats) then they can come down with some really heavy fines.

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ChrisSlicks

Fair enough. It's not the first that is being heard of it actually, just first time being report for Nissan, being happening with Evo's for a while. Evo's were getting flagged for having European ROM ID's, since they were flashing with downloaded and shared ROM's. Uprev should keep the same ROM ID so I don't think that's the problem here.

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crystalline

I've been ticketed for this on my other car, its only ~$150. Total of the ticket was over $750 but the exhaust portion was only ~$150(illegal tint was the most expensive item). Entire ticket was tossed in court. I know they have very heavy fines for shops that remove emissions equipment however. MA is starting to get closer and closer to CA

crystalline

I just wasn't aware that anyone was shutting off codes on the 370z at all. Do you have to with cheap test pipes? I wouldn't know as I had art pipes with no CEL before the LTH.

ANMVQ

I have heard of some guys on the 350's shutting the code for the O2 sensor off, Becasue the sensor was over heating( Not enought steel wool) LOL, The O2 was to much in the exhaust steam. I think ARK and companies a like have made some adjustments on the spacing.. I do have them now and will never so I'm really can not say for sure,

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vividracing

As others have mentioned, this topic has been beaten to DEATH on EvoM. Fact is, MADOT can read that your ECU has been flashed. It happened after February of this year.

Read all the stuff on this link:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...w=1920&bih=931

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Cmike2780

just move out of MA or stay stock -__- it sucks, but that pretty much solves everything. tuners are always on the losing side and they'll only make it more difficult to customize in the future.

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ANMVQ

Stay stock or move out?? Too a point maybe, I still think we all are still missing something, I just flipped through the pages of varisous thread over on EVOM,(Thanx Vivid) ,But the fact still remains they are all referencing to have their cats removed , EGR's removed and or certain system settings shut off. I still think with any tune, NA or FI as long as your emmision settings where not touched to keep CEl's from coming on I think you'd be fine. Not just the flash, Heck Stillen is Based in CA and they have a Carb legal kit, GTM has their kit Carb legal . We all know they use UPREV for their kits, can tunes..

The best quotes I found on EVOM,

"If your tuner tried to disable rear O2 or emissions related CELs then you may have a problem there. If they did the emissions force-pass then you may have a problem in that state.

The Below I would be is the majority on here.
"If you have just been tuned and all emissions pieces are in place then no worry though."

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Evil Sports

So we are not chasing a ghost here after all

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ANMVQ

I still think we are, Did you even read my post , About all the guys refereing to have sensors and codes either removed or shut off. " Running no cats and or no EGR's and EVAP sysytems".. One guy even said " Now I have to reinstall my cat and ERG valve".

Or that I just got off the phone with Stillen and they said the same thing. Their tune is CARB legal. The only one they have that is not is STG3. Which on the new kits they do not offer anyway.

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