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pokeyl 05-12-2012 11:17 AM

Uprev Tuning Info
 
OK, after a search, I have found nothing in the tune section about self tuning. I have the softwere installed and can change parameters. Am I the only person with the Uprev Tuner Software? I would like to start a ROM share thread; what works and what dosen't. Please shoot me a PM if you are self tuning.

N0SL3N 05-12-2012 01:19 PM

I was just thinking the same thing. Just had the car tuned and wanted to learn how I can enhance it with street tuning and data logging. Maybe we can get some people here with some uprev tuning experience.

cdoxp800 05-12-2012 02:06 PM

1 Attachment(s)
If you have the tuner Ver open your Rom editor and load your Rom. That what all you can change.

Sample of mine

pokeyl 06-04-2012 11:49 PM

OK, I uploaded a new tune today based on lean cruse/increased ignition timing. Results are very positive. 24.2 MPG before and 26.3 now. Indicated by onboard AVG fuel over a 100 mile city/hwy course. I will gather more data during the week and then post the ROM for referance.

Car runs just as before during accel, during lean cruse conditions the new map pulls fuel and adds timing.

Other changed made are
Removed top speed limit, I have no idea why but I did
Disabled codes to aft O2 sensors
Raised Redline to 7800 and the fuel cut restore points as well

ANMVQ 06-08-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdoxp800 (Post 1717277)
If you have the tuner Ver open your Rom editor and load your Rom. That what all you can change.

Sample of mine

Is there a table for the brake over ride switch, Switch that will not let the car rev past 2k with you foot on the brake( AUTO).

pokeyl 06-08-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1760450)
Is there a table for the brake over ride switch, Switch that will not let the car rev past 2k with you foot on the brake( AUTO).

I did not see one but It could be the cruse control interlock. If that is the case, you could try the ETC to off. See below


"ETC on/off: This setting disables the torque management aspects of the electronic throttle control. Turning this setting off will have the effect of making the throttle linier. The ECU will try to run the throttle plate % at whatever the accelerator % is.
** ETC on/off tuning tips: Turning this setting off will also disable the cruise control. Most of the feedback about disabling this setting is that the throttle is far too touchy, even for race drivers. Chances are you will never turn it off, but it is there if you’d like to try."

You could disable the switch but if you hit the brakes (cruse on) your cruse control would add power "VERY BAD"

Someone with an auto should know the answer....

ANMVQ 06-08-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 1760775)
I did not see one but It could be the cruse control interlock. If that is the case, you could try the ETC to off. See below


"ETC on/off: This setting disables the torque management aspects of the electronic throttle control. Turning this setting off will have the effect of making the throttle linier. The ECU will try to run the throttle plate % at whatever the accelerator % is.
** ETC on/off tuning tips: Turning this setting off will also disable the cruise control. Most of the feedback about disabling this setting is that the throttle is far too touchy, even for race drivers. Chances are you will never turn it off, but it is there if you’d like to try."

You could disable the switch but if you hit the brakes (cruse on) your cruse control would add power "VERY BAD"

Someone with an auto should know the answer....

Thanx man I will have him try that also. have never used cruse control anyway. LOL

pokeyl 06-10-2012 03:16 PM

I can't post the ROM file because of size limits. Shiit me your email if you want my current ROm file.

ChrisSlicks 06-10-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 1764566)
I can't post the ROM file because of size limits. Shiit me your email if you want my current ROm file.

:eek:




:roflpuke2:

cdoxp800 06-10-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 1764566)
I can't post the ROM file because of size limits. Shiit me your email if you want my current ROm file.

:inoutroflpuke: :icon18: :bowrofl:

Jordo! 06-10-2012 04:46 PM

Just a quick comment -- those of you looking to self tune, do you know some good basics on tuning fuel injected cars in general?

If not -- start with this: Amazon.com: Engine Management: Advanced Tuning (9781932494426): Greg Banish: Books

Really, really good book that walks you through it, theory and application step by step.

That, plus the uprev guides will be invaluable.

pokeyl 06-12-2012 11:46 AM

Current tune

Map 1 has almost 500 miles of testing
Maps 2, 3 are still under development
Map 4 is the stock map for referance

Timing is +2 units on all maps

Fuel is 93
Alt is below 300 Ft
Air Temp is 75 to 95

Mods to car (engine)
Injen CAI
Gemini Exhaust
HFC Invidia


http://www.the370z.com/members/pokey...e51136-map.jpg

zguynate 06-12-2012 11:54 AM

What differences are you seeing per map vs stock fuel mapping?

pokeyl 06-12-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 1767952)
What differences are you seeing per map vs stock fuel mapping?

Stock is the #4 map. You can't look at the colors you have to look at the numbers.

zguynate 06-12-2012 12:09 PM

Haha sorry, I should have worded my question more efficiently. With Maps 1,2, and 3 what performance differences are you seeing vs stock. I know you mentioned earlier better fuel consumption. Also have you noticed any differences in drivability?

pokeyl 06-12-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 1767983)
Haha sorry, I should have worded my question more efficiently. With Maps 1,2, and 3 what performance differences are you seeing vs stock. I know you mentioned earlier better fuel consumption. Also have you noticed any differences in drivability?

I have not had access to a dyno or closed course yet to test preformance increase with the maps. But I can say that just smoothing the AF curves and bumping the timming up have made the car a much better for throttle response, Power delivery seems smoother as well. All measurement taken with *** dyno on real world driving.

MPG is up 1.5/.8 MPG Hwy/City with map 1.

zguynate 06-12-2012 12:26 PM

Sweet. Ill plug your numbers in my tune tomorrow and test it out. I found a tune that changed the throttle map on here a few months ago and that allowed more throttle at low speeds (presumably 100% throttle). I can try to post it here as well if you want.

pokeyl 06-12-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 1768024)
Sweet. Ill plug your numbers in my tune tomorrow and test it out. I found a tune that changed the throttle map on here a few months ago and that allowed more throttle at low speeds (presumably 100% throttle). I can try to post it here as well if you want.


Yes Please. I can't beleave there is not more of this at this site. We need to contact an administrator to allow the ROM's to me posted.

zguynate 06-12-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 1768416)
Yes Please. I can't beleave there is not more of this at this site. We need to contact an administrator to allow the ROM's to me posted.


Ok I'll see if I can't get it posted later tonight or early tomorrow.

zguynate 06-14-2012 05:28 PM

Sorry it took a little while. Here is my throttle map. Credit however is given to wstar and I found this information in this thread:
http://www.the370z.com/tuning/43384-...tle-uprev.html

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...rottletune.png


You can copy this straight from here and paste it into a throttle table in UpRev:

Code:

8064 8101 81A0 82CC 83F1 8507 8718 88FC 8AB5 8C41 8D4F 8DA3 8DF3 8E44 8E8F 8ED8
803E 80DE 8181 82B3 83DE 84F9 8712 88FC 8AB8 8C46 8D53 8DA6 8DF6 8E46 8E90 8ED8
8018 80BC 8162 829A 83CB 84EB 870C 88FC 8ABC 8C4B 8D57 8DAA 8DF9 8E48 8E92 8ED8
7FF2 8099 8142 8281 83B8 84DD 8706 88FC 8ABF 8C50 8D5B 8DAD 8DFC 8E4A 8E93 8ED8
7FCB 8076 8122 8267 83A4 84CE 8700 88FC 8AC3 8C55 8D60 8DB1 8DFF 8E4C 8E94 8ED8
7FA5 8053 8103 824E 8391 84C0 86FA 88FC 8AC7 8C59 8D64 8DB5 8E02 8E4E 8E95 8ED8
7F7F 8031 80E4 8235 837D 84B2 86F4 88FC 8ACA 8C5E 8D68 8DB8 8E05 8E50 8E96 8ED8
7F59 800E 80C5 821C 836A 84A3 86EE 88FC 8ACE 8C63 8D6C 8DBC 8E08 8E53 8E97 8ED8
7F33 7FEC 80A6 8203 8357 8495 86E8 88FC 8AD1 8C68 8D70 8DBF 8E0B 8E55 8E98 8ED8
7F0D 7FC9 8087 81EB 8344 8487 86E2 88FC 8AD5 8C6C 8D74 8DC3 8E0E 8E57 8E99 8ED8
7EE6 7FA6 8067 81D1 8330 8478 86DC 88FC 8AD8 8C71 8D78 8DC6 8E11 8E59 8E9A 8ED8
7EC0 7F83 8048 81B8 831D 846A 86D6 88FC 8ADC 8C76 8D7C 8DCA 8E13 8E5B 8E9C 8ED8
7E9A 7F60 8029 819F 8309 845C 86D0 88FC 8AE0 8C7B 8D80 8DCE 8E16 8E5D 8E9D 8ED8
7E64 7F2F 7FFC 817C 82EE 8448 86C8 88FC 8AE5 8C82 8D86 8DD3 8E1B 8E60 8E9E 8ED8
7D47 7E2C 7F13 80C1 825D 83DD 869B 88FC 8AFF 8CA5 8DA5 8DED 8E30 8E6F 8EA7 8ED8

From the butt dyno it seems that the car has a whole lot more umph at lower speeds. There isnt a real jarring jump when you fully press the throttle as it comes on very smoothly. IMO its much better that the stock throttle settings.

pokeyl 06-14-2012 05:51 PM

Thanks, FYI, fuel table 3 is showing 27MPG HWY, at 65-70 MPH with the cruse control locked. 2 way 100 mile course. Air temp is 78-97, and the RE-11's are much higher than stock due to larger size and compounds. Seems to take VVEL a few (50 miles) to learn.

zguynate 06-14-2012 09:28 PM

With map 3 how does the car feel? Throttle response and power delivery. I havent had the chance to change it up yet for my self. Hopefully Ill get around to it tomorrow morning lol.

pokeyl 06-14-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 1772616)
With map 3 how does the car feel? Throttle response and power delivery. I havent had the chance to change it up yet for my self. Hopefully Ill get around to it tomorrow morning lol.

The map is smooth. My cruse control did drop off line tonight. I did not notice any change in power at the top end of the af MAP. Tuning for max power is just some controled runs on a dyno/closed course. The DD part of the MAP will require many days and miles of testing.

I beleave all the dyno tunes are just max tunes and then smooth the transitions from the lean to the new max power AF's. Thats all you have time for unless you rent a dyno for a day.

I will have months of data and thousands of miles in my finished tune.

***Also added 2 more units of timing (4 total) accross the timing table along with fuel map 3 and the improved throttle map. All seems well 28 to 29 MPG cruse at 65-70 and still rocks when I get on it.***

Returt trip was 27 MPG, air temp was 20 degrees cooler.

roplusbee 06-15-2012 08:46 PM

You guys got me wondering about the ETC off function. I may do it while I am @ Zerolift. I think that will be either epic or epic fail for me. I think I can live without VDC, SRM, and Cruise (except I will be complaining on the drive to Baltimore and back).

seymore4 06-15-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1774314)
You guys got me wondering about the ETC off function. I may do it while I am @ Zerolift. I think that will be either epic or epic fail for me. I think I can live without VDC, SRM, and Cruise (except I will be complaining on the drive to Baltimore and back).

In for results :tup:

pokeyl 06-16-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1774314)
You guys got me wondering about the ETC off function. I may do it while I am @ Zerolift. I think that will be either epic or epic fail for me. I think I can live without VDC, SRM, and Cruise (except I will be complaining on the drive to Baltimore and back).


All I have seen ETC off is bad. But you can try it.

zguynate 06-16-2012 09:13 AM

I tried it and didn't notice much of a difference. I may just be crazy lol.

ANMVQ 06-16-2012 09:33 AM

The map above from wstar is that his latest one. I'm making some changes in about a hour and was going to see what my maps looked like compared to his.

Reaper42 06-18-2012 01:40 PM

What idle rpm are you guys set at?

ANMVQ 06-18-2012 02:44 PM

So everything went smooth Saturday, the car is a dfferent animal again? I actual started a thread on myg37 about the ECU's relean with a tune. We reflashed the car and made some small changes to TQ management, timing( Added) and fuel( took some way) but the car literal screws now off the line, Hit it few times over the weekend from a dig and you could actualy feel the car twist a bit, even the wife was like WHOA did we slid or something, LOL . Just seems so different now.. BTW the fans speed is AWESOME, U usually see 200 oil temps and 185 tranny temps, We adj the temp to 185 fans start to come on and I saw nothing above 185 oil and 165 Tranny. Idle not sure man sorry but looks like 950? If I remember right. 7SPD auto BTW

fxroar 06-18-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper42 (Post 1777631)
What idle rpm are you guys set at?

Usually 750 RPM idle.

pokeyl 06-18-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 1777829)
Usually 750 RPM idle.

I reset the cold temps to lower RPM's, reound 1100-900 I think, but 750 at 40c.

biggestsack 06-18-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 1768416)
Yes Please. I can't beleave there is not more of this at this site. We need to contact an administrator to allow the ROM's to me posted.

That would be amazing!

N0SL3N 06-19-2012 10:48 PM

I want to do some data logging on my normal commute to check my tune. Can someone tell me what the are the most important parameters to log? When I load Cipher there is a long list and I am not sure which ones are the most important to track.

DIGItonium 06-20-2012 12:12 AM

Although it's pretty risky, it'll be nice to be able to share throttle tables just to get back the snappy response of the 350Z. I don't care how much power the car make, which already pulls hard to redline. For daily driving, even the Xterra has more grunt.

seymore4 06-20-2012 12:14 AM

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/43384-...tle-uprev.html

DIGItonium 06-20-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seymore4 (Post 1780785)

IIRC, it's tuned for autos so I'm not sure what it'll do for 6MT.

seymore4 06-20-2012 01:36 PM

Should work fine, haven't tried it personally but the throttle table is independent of the trans type, I know the stock tables look exactly the same so it recons that the tuned table would be the same. The Z33 throttle tables are identical between auto and manuals as well (stock and tuned)

pokeyl 06-20-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1781784)
IIRC, it's tuned for autos so I'm not sure what it'll do for 6MT.

Works fine in my MT6!!

DIGItonium 06-20-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 1781822)
Works fine in my MT6!!

O rly? :excited:
Were you able to achieve 100% throttle as well? When my car gets tuned, I'm definitely going to try to add in these tweaks. Can you set these throttle values to one of the maps? That way I can keep this stock table for rainy/winter driving, and switch to the next map. It'll be like having sport mode!

I can only imagine what this map + turbos is going to be like, but I'm all for improved low end response for daily driving.

Is the table based off the one dragonbreath posted? I'm several months away from tuning anyhow... need to switch over to external wastegates, 3" down pipes, and 3" exhaust first.


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