Question regarding Osiris software
 

I called a local shop for a quote on an uprev tune, and they asked if I already had the Osiris software. I do not, and they said that would be an additional $750 on top of the tune. Is this normal, or just that shop in particular?

i'm also looking for tuning shops at the moment,problem is that none are close to me that have experience with a Z. from what i've found some shops will try getting you with making a decent profit from buying an uprev kit for your car to tune it. probably what that $750 extra charge is since a standard osiris is $500 and the tuner version is $700

i just bought a uprev kit and can probably tune mine myself well. just need access to a dyno.

That's really steep considering an UpRev lisence is only $300 from the vendors I've been to, and the tuning is around $3-400. Grand total of $700~.

Any more then that and they're ripping you off.

Hence why i'm planning on doing my own tune lol

just hopefully i get it right :eekdance:

Talk to John @ Z1, he can help you out with that. He's their tuner and a great guy.

thanks for the tip. i just dont wanna have to pay someone $400-500 ontop of dyno fees to correct a few minor things on a laptop.

i just bought the UpRev osiris tuner kit. it should be at my house when i get home today actually lol

also i def need a tune since here in PA i only use 93 octane since all the pumps have it here. from what ive been told Z's are stock tuned for 91 octane. also my exhaust and test pipe addition could benefit from a proper tune.

I'm in the same boat you are, I neeeeeed a tune, not just for the bonus features of removing the limiters but to be able to get effective use from the 93 octane like you said plus the LTH's and CBE and the small intake mods I've had. But mostly to undo the leaning out from the headers.

Just don't have the $$ to spend on a tune right now. :(

What if I don't want to tune it myself? Why should I have to purchase the software? That's what I don't understand...I thought it was just a flat rate for the whole deal.

i agree completely with the leaning issue with the mods. i may not have an intake mod since im still planning on TT eventually but the non res test pipes and cbe have some effect on my fuel.

i feel you on them money issue too. just bought this tuner and i still gotta get tires, oil change materials (red line of course), and drilled/slotted rotors. also cash for dyno use. gonna be a very expensive week my Z better treat me right after all this lol

also new irons for my golf bag but that's a different topic all together lol

You don't have to purchase the software, just the License from UpRev. Which is $300. Tuning is extra of course, but is not $700 alone. Usually shops run flat rates of $600-700 for License + Tune. Anything more then that is shop markup, and a cause to go elsewhere.

each UpRev tune on a car needs its own license from uprev. even if you dont purchase the kit and just want the tuner to do everything and you just drive it they still gotta purchase a license from uprev. i think im saying this right lol.

i'm semi new to this as well. :shakes head:

I'm not really getting an intake over what I have now (Drop Ins and MAF Tubes) Due to their Cost/HP is not where I want it. I too am waiting to one day TT. :rolleyes: But it prolly won't be anytime soon.

I had the money to either Tune or get PC Calipers, D/S Rotors, SS Lines, and upgraded fluid + pads, Sway bars and rear endlinks, so I did those first since whatever I'm running right now on the Stock ECU hasn't fried anything yet. :icon17: Also just got the PS, Rear Diff, and Oils changed, to Redline as well.

Ok, maybe I will ask the shop about that. I'd like to go to them, as they are the closest. If not, I have a shop about 2 hours away that will do it for $700. Anybody have experience with Jtune Performance or AAM Competition?

I've heard good words about both, AAM is about an hour away from me so I'm prolly gonna go there when I have a chance.

Thanks, that makes sense. It's just like any other software then, Windows, Photoshop, ect. I guess I thought the shop could purchase the software and use it without purchasing a license each time. Now if I purchased the software myself, there would be no need to purchase the license each time I got a tune correct?

shop around for sure since that one shop sounds like they are trying to screw you over. i've heard good things about AAM.

you're lucky though. i got no tuners around me that i've read about doing 370z's or GT-R's. closest actual uprev tuner is about 4 hours in ohio or 5 hours in philly that r/t tune i believe was it.

Either with them tuning it, or you tuning yourself, you only need to purchase the license once. After that they keep using your license so all you're paying for is the dyno.

So the only benefit of buying the software myself would be to tune the car myself? Which I obviously don't know how to do. Thanks, that clears that up. I've read there is several different software to tune, is Osiris the best hands down?

Correct, if you're just looking to Tune/drive, and not interested in continually editing your tune, and have free access to a dyno, then there's no need to have the software. They'll take care of that bit for you.


There really isn't that many options of full tunes out there for our car. There is the Cobb Accessport and the Hypertech pocket tuners, but those care canned tunes and not specific to your vehicle. That's why UpRev is a better option.

We have a flat rate price of $595 for a N/A UPREV tune out the door. That includes a license and a custom tune with 5 Maps. We occasionally run a promo price of $525 tuned out the door and will probably be offering that come spring time. We have probably tuned more UPREV cars in the Northeast then anybody so check us out!!! Let me know if you have any questions and we will be more then happy to answer them.

Thanks, Vince

what's your price with me already having a uprev license? my tuner kit should be arriving today at some point.

^^^ For an N/A set you you are looking at $350, Let me know if you would like to set something up we are booked up about two weeks out.

i'm not bringing my car out of the garage for atleast another week or two anyways but you guys are like a 6 hour drive from me. i'd like to fins something closer is all. nothing against you guys i've heard many good things about your shop. i will keep it in mind as a last resort. i found a place in ohio about 3 hours from me but judging by their website im unsure of how professional they are. gotta do more research on them.

^^^ no prob. We got guys coming from canada to get them all tuned up!!! Come on a friday, hit up philly for the week end and head back sunday!!!

On the 93 octane, won't the car's knock sensors add a bit of timing for the added octane? I thought most modern timing systems add a bit of timing and add a bit more until they detect knock then pull a bit to stay just under the knock threshold.

Does the Z not run that way?

i'm from pittsburgh though so philly isnt high up on my places to visit....again lol but i get what youre saying. i'll have to look into it since gas prices are going up.

umm thats a good question. i dont know if they automatically adjust or can detect the difference in the 91 to 93 jump. like i said im new to the 3.7 in Z. anything i know mechanically is things learned from my dad and uncles and they mostly know about old school engines. typically big block V8s lol surpisingly i didnt get murdered for going foreign lol

My bet is they do automatically adjust.

I'd like to know how much timing is in a stock Z tune. I've heard 23° at WOT. I've got some tools at home I'll hook up to confirm when I get time.

On 93 octane, 23° of timing and a 12.5-12.8:1 AFR would be a pretty spicy tune.

haha well if you figure all that out i'll enter it in my uprev and see what happens. hopefully it doesnt blow up.

i still havent decided how i wanna tune it yet. my uprev kit is at my house waiting for me.

first thing is bye bye speed limiter and bumping the rev limiter up a bit.

Knock Knock ....... Timing: who's there?

Mr Octane

Timing: Mr Octane who?

No Octane and too much timing makes...... lots a knock knock

They will adjust for timing but only up o the values in the ROM. If you want it to run higher timing with 93 octane u need to raise those values and the ECU will adapt up to them. Since the Z's are tuned for 91 octane from the factory raising the values for 93 octane allows you to maximize it.

looks like i got a lot to learn after work so i can tune mine lol mine is sitting on my porch at home. delivery confirmed lol

Damn, yall are a bit of a drive for me too. Is the Tuning something that can be done in 1 day, or would you need some more time?

Also, would you guys happen to be a licensed vehicle inspection station for registration purposes? :icon08:

I need a 'mod-friendly' inspection station to get my headers through for now till I can get my cats shipped to me. :icon17:

Where in Ohio were are you talking about? I may be in need of a tune within the next year or so and had yet to hear of a tuner that was actually recommended.

That makes sense.

Any idea how much timing is in the stock Z tune?

there's a tuner that is listed on uprev's website called slowmotion motorsports. they are located just north of Columbus.

http://slowmotionmotorsports.com/

address is right on the website. they are like 3 1/2 hours from me in Pittsburgh.