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ZKindaGuy

So what's your point? $5000 paid for 47 HP is still not a practical ROI of any kind no matter what the constraints are.

wstar

That's about a 20% improvement over the usual stock hp numbers, for about 15%-ish of the price of the car.

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ZKindaGuy

No its a 15% improvement based on the 47 HP gain he reported...not 20%. Anyway you cut it he overspent for a mere gain compared to the dollars spent. The numbers don't lie, folks. No argument has any standing when the numbers are run other than he overspent and the performance shop got to walk to the bank laughing.

ErnieT

If he is happy then its worth whatever he paid for it. He posted his hp numbers, not his portfolio of net worth. Whats worth it for one may not be for all. Thats why you have your car and he has his. I have a 900hp RX7 and don't want to think about the money I have in it, but if I'm happy thats all that matters.

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ZKindaGuy

And that's precisely the reason why the US is in an economic crunch..people have completly lost their sense of sensibility...just because it makes you feel good is not a good or sensible reason for justifying overpaying for something..especially to the tune of 3.5 time over.

GMZ

Wrong. Were in this mess because people took on too much debt and as a country we can not mathematically take on any more. So now credit (debt) must contract with a corresponding drop in GDP and excess capacity must contract leading to mass layoffs.

If he can afford it who gives a rats ***?

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wstar

Actually, people who can afford it blowing money on "useless" things (as in, not food or shelter) is a win for the economy. It's better for the economy if people with excess income/cash blow it buying parts and services, which prop up jobs and businesses.

And there's really no definition of what's paying too much for car performance. Compared to the average car consumer who isn't really into this stuff, any money spent upgrading the performance of a car is a "waste".

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SnakeBitten

Ok back on track. Nice numbers. Has anyone thats made over 320-330rwhp with mods run the 1/4 mile yet???I know Semtex and RCZ and now Phimosis all are in this range.

I know some may not be into the 1/4 but just curious to see if this car can hit or excede 110mph with those mods. This would almost put it on C5 Z06 level 1/4 mile wise. With some suspension mods with this power it should be very close to the C5 Z06 circuit track numbers imho.

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ZKindaGuy

When you have been doing this stuff for over 38 years you learn quickly what's a good ROI and what isn't as mods can put you out living in the street and broke real fast...

There is a definition or standard that is a defacto agreed upon understanding in the performance mods arena for determining ROI....ands its what I have stated above...$25 to $30 / 1-HP gain....

Phimosis

No reason to fan the flames here. I'm not upset over what I paid. Just because a $1200 exhaust on a Camaro gets you more hp than on a small displacement car doesn't mean that it's going to be cheaper. The prices I paid weren't exhorbitant. The hp gains were smaller than expected, but that's why I posted this....so people would see the truth and understand what they are getting into when they start adding up manufacturer's claims of 18hp here, 10 hp there, etc., then go and dyno and find out they didn't get what they thought.

Try crunching those numbers on a Porsche, Lambo or Ferarri and see what you get.... the turbo Lambo kit from Heffner is widely acclaimed, but $30,000 for 300 hp. Superchargers for the Cayman are about $10,000 and give you 100 hp. The only cheap place to get hp is on engines that are making 50-60 hp/liter. The Z doesn't fall into that group.

Me giving Stillen money isn't going to put me on the street, nor is it going to cause the US economy to collapse. I paid cash for my goodies and have enough cash on hand that I'll give Stillen even more money when their supercharger kit comes out. I don't even care that this is money lost in depreciation when I sell the car. This is not an investment, it's a play toy. Not only that, but it's a cheaper play toy than the girls I get to ride around in it with me. When I go out and buy parts for it, it's just a good excuse to tell my girl that I'm not going to buy that hand bag or heels that she wants because I spent my cash on car parts!

-Phim

GMZ

So true! How does it feel compared to stock? Is it more of a no comparison, or just abig improvement?

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RedlineHR

Good point Phim! Fortunately or unfortunately, My wife is into z's too (350Zs). So we have two z's to mod. Two money pits. She got her tune last year and I don't have a tune yet. But she did let me replace my AME wheels with some LE37 Volks.

Where's the ROI on wheels? Where's the ROI on new car purchases? If you're worried about ROI, drop the car hobby for hiking or something... you'll get some miles out of those $200 boots.

Brazilbro

who cares how much he spent per HP.. Its his money and hes blowen the doors off any other N/A Z.. Sure with a turbo or S/C you get more HP for your buck.. but its his buck and his car and his plan.. If i wasnt planning on gettting the Greddy TT kit I would drop 5k for 330whp in a sec.. you gota pay to play.. I think you are just jealous he's got the paper to play more then you do.

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DannyGT

Yayayay love!

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