upRev questions

Pelican170 · 10-20-2011, 04:21 PM

One more question regarding tuning. Sorry, i posted this in a few different Uprev threads...

If the Nismo model has most of its "additional HP" from the tune it has, would getting an uprev tune not add much HP, but make the car drive better?? or would it still benefit 10 - 15 whp from the Uprev tune like other models?? Curious..

Josh@STILLEN · 10-20-2011, 05:04 PM

If you are going to a Pro Tuner and having your car tuned you're still starting from the base tune in your Z, and adjusting the values from there to dial in A/F ratio, and of course could play with some timing to extract as much HP as possible.

It's not throwing your existing tune out the window, it's adjusting what's there. There are tables and portions of the ECU which remain uncracked from UpRev, and aren't adjusted. There's a lot going on in the ECU.

Pelican170 · 10-21-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

If you are going to a Pro Tuner and having your car tuned you're still starting from the base tune in your Z, and adjusting the values from there to dial in A/F ratio, and of course could play with some timing to extract as much HP as possible.

It's not throwing your existing tune out the window, it's adjusting what's there. There are tables and portions of the ECU which remain uncracked from UpRev, and aren't adjusted. There's a lot going on in the ECU.

Ok, thank you for the info.

Skeeterbop · 11-26-2011, 07:16 PM

Got a question about uprev that I've been pondering. When you bump the RPM limit to say 8k or 8.1k does the tuner make that part of the map from scratch? Also is there a limit to how high it can increase the RPM limit?

Compdoc777 · 12-13-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

$200 for the cable which also has a Cipher license.

Yes, you can purchase a used cable from someone, they are not married by VIN. You can also use the UpRev cable to trouble code check anything OBD-II (any newer vehicle).. as much as you want.

This cable wouldn't be a Tatrix obd2 to USB would it?

Also how much gain all stock with a tune?

spdonegan · 12-19-2011, 03:42 PM

Should be getting my UpRev hardware (standard - may go to tuner later) so I'll see what cable it has. I have several other OBD-II cables (serial, USB and even a WiFi one).

Now to my question - 2011 370Z Coupe, AT, Stillen intake, Stillen exhaust, Stillen headers and Berk cats (both yet to be installed). So what RWHP should I expect. My math seems to say a bit north of 350 RWHP and I found one dyno sheet with everything but the headers that showed 338 RWHP - curious if anyone else has the same gear and results?

Happy Holidays!

prescott3656 · 12-20-2011, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdonegan

Should be getting my UpRev hardware (standard - may go to tuner later) so I'll see what cable it has. I have several other OBD-II cables (serial, USB and even a WiFi one).

Now to my question - 2011 370Z Coupe, AT, Stillen intake, Stillen exhaust, Stillen headers and Berk cats (both yet to be installed). So what RWHP should I expect. My math seems to say a bit north of 350 RWHP and I found one dyno sheet with everything but the headers that showed 338 RWHP - curious if anyone else has the same gear and results?

Happy Holidays!

Never seen anyone near 340whp with bolt-ons. Depends on the dyno, some read high, ideally, you get the dyno numbers before and after a mod and check the difference.

b1adesofcha0s · 12-20-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdonegan

Should be getting my UpRev hardware (standard - may go to tuner later) so I'll see what cable it has. I have several other OBD-II cables (serial, USB and even a WiFi one).

Now to my question - 2011 370Z Coupe, AT, Stillen intake, Stillen exhaust, Stillen headers and Berk cats (both yet to be installed). So what RWHP should I expect. My math seems to say a bit north of 350 RWHP and I found one dyno sheet with everything but the headers that showed 338 RWHP - curious if anyone else has the same gear and results?

Happy Holidays!

Depends on the dyno really. Some read high while other read low. Most people with similar mods seem to average around 300-320 whp depending on the dyno. Anything higher than around 320 or so is probably a high reading dyno. Like prescott said though, it's only the change in whp from the mods that really matters.

Alexwallace23 · 05-02-2013, 05:49 AM

I have a tuning question I hope someone can answer for me.

The common price I'm finding that forum members are paying for a tune is about $700. I recently got a quote for a shop close to me that is also charging $700 for a complete Dyno tune with licensing. Now, I found a cheaper shop that is only charging $300 but this is only for a tune.

I have never seen the tuning process but I'm assuming the car would have to go on a Dyno for a proper tuning and I would have to get the license in order to get the flash on the car. So what is the difference here between a $300 tune only and a $700 complete Dyno tune?

Dzel · 05-02-2013, 06:04 AM

They can also do a road tune where they actually drive the car but this is hard to do, due to having to get to high rpm's in 5th gear.

seymore4 · 05-02-2013, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexwallace23

I have a tuning question I hope someone can answer for me.

The common price I'm finding that forum members are paying for a tune is about $700. I recently got a quote for a shop close to me that is also charging $700 for a complete Dyno tune with licensing. Now, I found a cheaper shop that is only charging $300 but this is only for a tune.

I have never seen the tuning process but I'm assuming the car would have to go on a Dyno for a proper tuning and I would have to get the license in order to get the flash on the car. So what is the difference here between a $300 tune only and a $700 complete Dyno tune?

Just the cost of the Osiris license is $300, so that would be just the reflash and a base tune. The $700 price includes the dyno tuning and the license, you're basically paying $300 for the license, and $400 for the dyno tuning.

The more affordable way to do it is purchase the cable & license and get it done via datalogs.. fully tuned for $500, plus you get to keep the cable.

GaleForce · 05-02-2013, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzel

They can also do a road tune where they actually drive the car but this is hard to do, due to having to get to high rpm's in 5th gear.

UpRev told me they need a 0-60 log and a 1 minute log consisting of various driving conditions (driving through town for example) for them to make am E-Tune. Given that information, you probably do not need to get to the top of 5th gear for a road tune.

seymore4 · 05-02-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce

UpRev told me they need a 0-60 log and a 1 minute log consisting of various driving conditions (driving through town for example) for them to make am E-Tune. Given that information, you probably do not need to get to the top of 5th gear for a road tune.

This is true

Dzel · 05-02-2013, 06:07 PM

Sweet didn't know that

10-20-2011, 04:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
Pelican170 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 972 Drives: Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 16	One more question regarding tuning. Sorry, i posted this in a few different Uprev threads... If the Nismo model has most of its "additional HP" from the tune it has, would getting an uprev tune not add much HP, but make the car drive better?? or would it still benefit 10 - 15 whp from the Uprev tune like other models?? Curious.. __________________ Fast Intentions CF Exhaust - Fast Intentions HFC's - HPS Tubes w/ AFE Dry Flow Filter's

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Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 17	Got a question about uprev that I've been pondering. When you bump the RPM limit to say 8k or 8.1k does the tuner make that part of the map from scratch? Also is there a limit to how high it can increase the RPM limit? __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

12-19-2011, 03:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
spdonegan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stanton, CA, USA Posts: 27 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z Red A Rep Power: 14	UpRev cable and a question Should be getting my UpRev hardware (standard - may go to tuner later) so I'll see what cable it has. I have several other OBD-II cables (serial, USB and even a WiFi one). Now to my question - 2011 370Z Coupe, AT, Stillen intake, Stillen exhaust, Stillen headers and Berk cats (both yet to be installed). So what RWHP should I expect. My math seems to say a bit north of 350 RWHP and I found one dyno sheet with everything but the headers that showed 338 RWHP - curious if anyone else has the same gear and results? Happy Holidays!

05-02-2013, 06:04 AM	#25 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 23	They can also do a road tune where they actually drive the car but this is hard to do, due to having to get to high rpm's in 5th gear. __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

05-02-2013, 06:07 PM	#29 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 23	Sweet didn't know that __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

10-20-2011, 05:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 534	If you are going to a Pro Tuner and having your car tuned you're still starting from the base tune in your Z, and adjusting the values from there to dial in A/F ratio, and of course could play with some timing to extract as much HP as possible. It's not throwing your existing tune out the window, it's adjusting what's there. There are tables and portions of the ECU which remain uncracked from UpRev, and aren't adjusted. There's a lot going on in the ECU.

05-02-2013, 05:49 AM	#24 (permalink)
Alexwallace23 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 124 Drives: 2012 370Z Rep Power: 12	I have a tuning question I hope someone can answer for me. The common price I'm finding that forum members are paying for a tune is about $700. I recently got a quote for a shop close to me that is also charging $700 for a complete Dyno tune with licensing. Now, I found a cheaper shop that is only charging $300 but this is only for a tune. I have never seen the tuning process but I'm assuming the car would have to go on a Dyno for a proper tuning and I would have to get the license in order to get the flash on the car. So what is the difference here between a $300 tune only and a $700 complete Dyno tune?

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