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fxroar 08-24-2011 02:56 PM

Hypertech Part#62004 Review
 
I purchased a Hypertech from Andrew (xdeslitx) Monday 08/24. He shipped them yesterday and they arrived on my doorstep 9am this morning. I really never thought I'd be tuning the car AT ALL.. at least not for a while since I only have an exhaust. For the price Andrew was selling them.. why not try it out and take it for the team? I've read good and bad reviews. Many 370z owners hesitate to get a "canned tuned" simply because for the retail price you could almost get yourself a custom tune from UPREV. In this thread, I am hoping those that cannot find the time and locate a shop for UPREV or never have enough funding for a custom tune, find the answers they are looking for. Whether this works for me or just becomes a complete piece of garbage.. I WILL post it here. Please let's keep this thread clean. No bashing/flaming or any negative posts as I am doing this to CLARIFY any concerns/interests of those looking to get one.

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Once again, Andrew, thank you for the amazing pricing, extremely quick shipping and top notch packaging. He answered every question/concerns, I had in a matter of minutes.

08/24/11 - Wednesday
Took about 5-10 mins to complete from start to end. Turned the car on and drove hard for 20 mins. It was 82F outside. First thing I noticed was the car being more responsive between 2-3k RPM. Floored it a few times... VDC got in the way so I turned it off. Even with the heavier 19" Volk GTS the acceleration was quick and smooth. No lag thus far. I didn't feel a whole lot difference on the top end. I can't completely say this has completely eliminated the throttle response since it is the first day and only 20 minutes of driving. Tomorrow I'll post up another review since I will be in a stop and go for traffic for an hour. So far I'm pretty happy with it. Not night and day difference like people claim on a custom tune, but the difference is very noticeable.

08/26/11 - Friday
Yesterday was employee appreciation day so I had no time to do a review. Today.. I drove the car hard once again. The temp outside was 86F. It was hot.. but not TOO hot. With the constant beating to get it to demonstrate the throttle lag.. I got the oil temp up to 230F (don't forget I have the smaller core oil cooler from Stillen). There was a lot of stop and go. I kept the VDC OFF the whole time. Today's a great day. The car felt good. Even with the higher temp and more than an hour and a half of playing.. the car didn't fall flat on its face nor lag. The acceleration was smooth every time and wheel spin whenever I dump the clutch @ 2500RPM and half throttle. Before the flash, the car "kinda" crawls then suddenly goes. It's only the second day so I am still NOT completely convinced that the throttle lag has been eliminated until further testing.

08/28/11 - Sunday
Yesterday I flashed the car back to stock with the intention of bringing it to the dealer to get some stuff done. After I got my car back, I immediately flashed using Hypertech. For some reason, the feeling was not the same. The power was there.. Delivery was linear.. still no sign of throttle lag, but for some reason the car still felt stock. In a few minutes I will be flashing the car back to stock then reflash again to Hypertech and report back in a few days.

09/07/11 - Wednesday
This is going to be the final edit as I am fully convinced that the Hypertech has completely eliminated the sluggish/rather awkward hesitation in the low RPMs. After getting my car back from getting the front bumper redone (emblem shave) and getting the EVO-R Flash kit installed.. I reconnected the Hypertech and noticed that I didn't apply power tuning applied. This might have happened last time I visited the dealer to do some work and had to flash back to stock. After applying the power tuning felt a bit stronger again and all the other bells and whistles. I am hoping this review answered many questions/concerns. I am just bummed out you cannot increase engine RPM. You can only REDUCE it by 500. The speed can be limited as well, but just like the RPM it can only be lowered and not increased.

I've decided that I will be keeping this kit and will post DYNO numbers when I get the chance. I am also interested to see how much of gain/loss this will have with MOTORDYNE and especially with the stillen G3s.

Happy tuning and driving to everyone :tup:

xdeslitx 08-24-2011 03:02 PM

good to know you got it already :tup:

Jamaica 08-24-2011 03:02 PM

Great unit. It works well and clears codes.

xdeslitx 08-24-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1278776)
Great unit. It works well and clears codes.

lol you should know :roflpuke2:
i cleared yours with my old one

Jamaica 08-24-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1278780)
lol you should know :roflpuke2:
i cleared yours with my old one

and after that i bought my own lol

xdeslitx 08-24-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1278784)
and after that i bought my own lol

oh really? haha i didnt know that you did

fxroar 08-24-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1278784)
and after that i bought my own lol

Owned.. lol

On a serious note. I am very surprised of the results.

Jamaica 08-24-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 1278799)
Owned.. lol

On a serious note. I am very surprised of the results.

The results are great. I felt the difference in throttle response.

Rooskey 08-24-2011 04:34 PM

OP you should dyno it with and without. Im interested in across the board results. Thanks for taking the time to try it out anyways...

MattP725 08-24-2011 05:05 PM

That's the major issue I have with a canned tune... you can swear you feel results but how can you be sure? I know you can say the same for every mod but at least you have a physical part installed on the car... with the electronic tune it is hard to judge without a dyno.

Just my 2 cents but I completely understand not having a local tuner (hell it took me 3 hrs to get to mine) and wanting some of the benefits.

Vince@R/T 08-24-2011 08:24 PM

I would like to see someone dyno before and after with this as well as log with cipher. With the WOT closed loop timing control its tough to advance the timing on these ECU's without a lil trickery...

Mike 08-24-2011 08:27 PM

I've got one for my expedition and its awesome.

fxroar 08-25-2011 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1279105)
That's the major issue I have with a canned tune... you can swear you feel results but how can you be sure? I know you can say the same for every mod but at least you have a physical part installed on the car... with the electronic tune it is hard to judge without a dyno.

Just my 2 cents but I completely understand not having a local tuner (hell it took me 3 hrs to get to mine) and wanting some of the benefits.

I knew it was a matter of time before someone like you shows up. lol. I know my car really well. Been driving 370s for about 2 years now. I usually pay attention to ambient temperature and definitely the length of play time during my runs. After the motor got up to temp and I constantly beat on it hard for 20 minutes.. there will be throttle delay/ response delay. Like I said.. this is the first day and I have yet made a conclusion whether this is a great investment or not for those that do not have local shops around. Please stay tunned :)

fxroar 08-25-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1279381)
I've got one for my expedition and its awesome.

This apparently brings out the best out of big displacement trucks/crossovers. Those must have been toned down big time from factory to be able to make a lot from a canned tune.

fxroar 08-26-2011 05:21 PM

*UPDATED* Aug. 26, 2011

xdeslitx 08-26-2011 05:31 PM

glad you're liking the hypertech :tup:

fxroar 08-26-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1283585)
glad you're liking the hypertech :tup:

So far so good :)

fxroar 08-28-2011 04:52 PM

*UPDATED* Aug. 28, 2011

gaveup 08-29-2011 12:34 PM

While this doesn't seem to be like a horrible mod, I am showing it online for around $450 (tirerack). I really didn't check to see if it can be had for cheaper online.

At that price point, I can't see why you wouldn't go with UpRev Osiris Standard. It's about $50 more, but you get a more custom email tune with it. I can't see this method being much further away from a pro tune. Seeing as how you can't tune timing much and all you're really "tuning" is your AFR (correct me if I am wrong please).

fxroar 09-08-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 1287184)
While this doesn't seem to be like a horrible mod, I am showing it online for around $450 (tirerack). I really didn't check to see if it can be had for cheaper online.

At that price point, I can't see why you wouldn't go with UpRev Osiris Standard. It's about $50 more, but you get a more custom email tune with it. I can't see this method being much further away from a pro tune. Seeing as how you can't tune timing much and all you're really "tuning" is your AFR (correct me if I am wrong please).

Like I mentioned towards the beginning.. this is geared for those that do not have any shop close by. If you can get a hold of a Hypertech for the price I paid for (which is around $300) or possibly less.. I don't see any negative impact of owning one as I have first hand experienced. UpRev will definitely be a huge step up, but I don't think you'll see one of those going on market even from any member for less than $300 because people tend to keep them (custom tune always > canned tune).

*Updated 09/07/11 - Wednesday*

gaveup 09-08-2011 01:03 PM

Well, for $300, it's worth it then.

I was just saying for thr price I saw of $450, you can buy the uprev cable and do email tunes. No "custom" tuning really and you can do it anywhere you want.

Jamaica 09-08-2011 01:08 PM

Contact vendors on the forum. Its cheaper then the price advertised.

fxroar 09-09-2011 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 1303418)
Well, for $300, it's worth it then.

I was just saying for thr price I saw of $450, you can buy the uprev cable and do email tunes. No "custom" tuning really and you can do it anywhere you want.

Not busting your balls but uprev tuning is more complex than just sending your ecu and list of upgrades. Data logging .. etc.. etc.. could be a hassle and more of a hassle when doing warranty work where stealership might check for stock ecu.

Hypertech 09-09-2011 03:10 PM

When I drove our 09 370z stock then tuned car. I noticed throttle response and the dead spot feel in the peddle was gone.

280z/300zx 09-09-2011 04:13 PM

Interested in this mod but would like to see dyno's. Any time frame on when you might get around to doing one?

fxroar 09-09-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypertech (Post 1305700)
When I drove our 09 370z stock then tuned car. I noticed throttle response and the dead spot feel in the peddle was gone.

I agree. I am hoping you guys make it possible for the module to let the consumers do a bit more custom. For instance.. balancing a/f w/ intake only.. or exhaust only.. or exhaust + intake.. or exhaust + intake + headers... And so on.. I see a good potential of the carbeing able to gain 5-10 more to the wheels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1305839)
Interested in this mod but would like to see dyno's. Any time frame on when you might get around to doing one?

I'm hoping soon. I'm still trying to find the time to sneeze that into my schedule. I'll post an update as soon as I get the car dyno'd before and after the flash.

sboden 09-10-2011 08:06 AM

I bought a used one for $280. It was worth it just for the better throttle response. I doubt if there is much a of hp/tq gain and the small amount there is wouldn't make much difference. I got it for the throttle and it was worth it to me. I'm not willing to travel 4 hours away and spend $700 for an uprev which will get me just a few more hp/tq.

fxroar 09-10-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sboden (Post 1306480)
I bought a used one for $280. It was worth it just for the better throttle response. I doubt if there is much a of hp/tq gain and the small amount there is of it wouldn't make much difference. I got it for the throttle and it was worth it to me. I'm not willing to travel 4 hours away and spend $700 for an uprev which will get me just a few more hp/tq.

I'm glad you're having a positive experience as well. What bolt ons do you have? The nitto invos are getting bald pretty quickly.. quicker than the softer stock bridgestone lol.. My driving habits had been very bad for the last 4 tanks of gas. Im pretty sure it'd be worse if I had gotten an UpRev. :shakes head:

sboden 09-11-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 1307030)
I'm glad you're having a positive experience as well. What bolt ons do you have? The nitto invos are getting bald pretty quickly.. quicker than the softer stock bridgestone lol.. My driving habits had been very bad for the last 4 tanks of gas. Im pretty sure it'd be worse if I had gotten an UpRev. :shakes head:

They are in my signature....just the basic stuff for now. Yep...gas mileage tends to go down for me :driving:

gaveup 09-12-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 1305114)
Not busting your balls but uprev tuning is more complex than just sending your ecu and list of upgrades. Data logging .. etc.. etc.. could be a hassle and more of a hassle when doing warranty work where stealership might check for stock ecu.


Wait, why would you send them your ECU? You order the cable, dl the standard osiris program and flash it? Sure there is a hassle of sending logs via email and reflashing, but I think it may be worth it no?

Hypertech 09-12-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 1305894)
I agree. I am hoping you guys make it possible for the module to let the consumers do a bit more custom. For instance.. balancing a/f w/ intake only.. or exhaust only.. or exhaust + intake.. or exhaust + intake + headers... And so on.. I see a good potential of the carbeing able to gain 5-10 more to the wheels.



I'm hoping soon. I'm still trying to find the time to sneeze that into my schedule. I'll post an update as soon as I get the car dyno'd before and after the flash.

Send me your sn# and contact info in a PM and I will hook you up with what you need..

Please save up for the custom tune, I would love for you to compare them on the dyno.

gaveup 09-13-2011 10:09 AM

Maybe I should have looked at their site beforehand to see the gains. lol.

Seems pretty good. Just wish AFR was in there.

Hypertech 09-13-2011 10:25 AM

When a manufacturer post comparison info it never has the same effect as the end user posting. We publish rear wheel dyno charts for every vehicle we support.

Hypertech 09-13-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 1310771)
it would be nice for the company who produces the product to actually show a comparative dyno. Might actually help sell the unit more (With healthy numbers, I'd buy it over uprev).

I just want to make it clear in here that I am not doubting this product. I think it would be awesome if it gains some power (even better if it is closer to the canned uprev tune). It's hard to understand any actual gains based on a review without any dyno numbers to back it up (and to make sure the AFR is in check as well...who knows where the hypertech puts you at with mods).

They should totally send me one to test. I'd have had it dynoed the first week to make sure it's not hurting anything (but I am sure it is conservative enough). What parameters in the ECU is it actually editing? Seems to be it has more to do with throttle response than anything else. I remember a thread on here where people were buying that one part that increased voltage for the accelerator and they were making it sound like the car picked up power. Butt dyno can be very deceiving.

:tiphat: 30 day no questions asked return policy should give you plenty of time to dyno

fxroar 09-16-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypertech (Post 1309568)
Send me your sn# and contact info in a PM and I will hook you up with what you need..

Please save up for the custom tune, I would love for you to compare them on the dyno.

You got a PM. I apologize for the late response. I'd love to have UpRev done, but I have already saved up for GTM Stage 1 SC. Just waiting for full control of VVEL.

I guess member gaveup deleted his post.

He mentioned the module that increases the voltage.. That's Sprint Booster.. The thing is.. it makes it so you don't have to floor the pedal to get 100% throttle (Drive-by-wire sucks) but that DOES NOT get rid of the "hesitation" even with VDC off. I don't know how Hypertech did it with their module without full control of VVEL, but my car no longer suffers from this problem.

370z_2910 09-18-2011 07:11 AM

is this hypertune already pre-set tuned for all z?

is it possible to update or change the tune setting?

fxroar 09-18-2011 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370z_2910 (Post 1318563)
is this hypertune already pre-set tuned for all z?

is it possible to update or change the tune setting?

Unfortunately no. I'm still waiting for a PM back from Hypertech. The module has a canned tuned good for stock up to mildly tuned Z. I'm trying to get a bit more custom out of it.. I'm still waiting

370z_2910 09-19-2011 09:01 PM

Compare with the uprev...

How much different will the hypertech cost including tuning and dyno?

100...200..300..??

fxroar 09-20-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370z_2910 (Post 1320842)
Compare with the uprev...

How much different will the hypertech cost including tuning and dyno?

100...200..300..??

Depending on how much you can get a hold of your modules for either product. Both are one tune for one car unless you purchase another license (UpRev Only). Module to module the UpRev cost more, but you have the ability to smoothen out your power and torque curves depending on how much dyno tune time you spend.

I'm still waiting for member Hypertech to see if we can incorporate a more categorized preset tunes to squeeze out a few more HP/TQ using the current module.

LOU@AMPLIFIED 09-22-2011 10:53 PM

If any of you guys want to try it, i have 2 Hypertech modules in stock.
I had this on my G37 for a year before i went boosted. I can honestly say its worth every penny.

Also, there is no charge to go back to your stock MAP. :)) You can easily install and remove changes with the module including decreasing your red line (valet mode), even limiting your top speed for safety :)

Pm me for pricing


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