Is anyone trying to unlock tuning the VVEL?

Deadman · 08-31-2011, 10:58 AM

What sucks is Cobb would have done good things they just didn't have the time or people to keep up on the Z platform. I talked to Christian @ Cobb about a month ago and did state that there is power to be had through vvel tuning. I can post the conversation when I'm home , it was from mazdaspeedforums which I still occasionally visit.

Edit: here ya go

. Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256Re: Why did Cobb abandon the 370z/G37 Originally Posted by Deadman What are your thoughts on cracking VVEL? Any power to be had N/A or no? Thanks dude

I am sure that power is to be had there. We simply did not have enough engineers to effectively reverse engineer those platforms and provide excellent customer service. We cannot make a product without being able to back it the way we want to. We have to also be able to provide superior customer service to back it up. Christian.

O well one day something may come from someone

ChipsWithDips · 08-31-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadman

What sucks is Cobb would have done good things they just didn't have the time or people to keep up on the Z platform. I talked to Christian @ Cobb about a month ago and did state that there is power to be had through vvel tuning. I can post the conversation when I'm home , it was from mazdaspeedforums which I still occasionally visit.

Edit: here ya go

. Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256Re: Why did Cobb abandon the 370z/G37 Originally Posted by Deadman What are your thoughts on cracking VVEL? Any power to be had N/A or no? Thanks dude

I am sure that power is to be had there. We simply did not have enough engineers to effectively reverse engineer those platforms and provide excellent customer service. We cannot make a product without being able to back it the way we want to. We have to also be able to provide superior customer service to back it up. Christian.

O well one day something may come from someone

Shoulda woulda coulda. They gave up because it was too difficult.

Red__Zed · 08-31-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips

Shoulda woulda coulda. They gave up because it was too difficult.

More likely because there is no money in it.

red6spd · 08-31-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

More likely because there is no money in it.

Nah, your the only one that hates his Z. The rest would have payed alot of money for whatever they came out with (as long as it showed decent gains.)

Red__Zed · 08-31-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Nah, your the only one that hates his Z. The rest would have payed alot of money for whatever they came out with (as long as it showed decent gains.)

Problem is, there's like 30k or so z's, and only a small portion of people would buy it. Even if they kept their crack proprietary, the market is minuscule. In reality, the crack would be easy to reverse engineer, thus leaving them with nothing to recoup their cost.

The ecu doesn't appear that difficult to get through. I think a couple friends and I could have it done with a month of full time work... But that's at least $20-50k worth of a good engineer's time, not really practical.

Alchemy · 08-31-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Nah, your the only one that hates his Z. The rest would have payed alot of money for whatever they came out with (as long as it showed decent gains.)

Not at all on subject, but how the hell did you get 339 whp off those upgrades??? Thats unbelievably amazing. As in im not sure I believe it

Deadman · 08-31-2011, 11:30 AM

Eh took them 3 years to rlly get the Mazda ecu cracked .. they would hit a wall of like 390 awhp no matter what psi and no matter how big the turbo... Finally it turned out to be a load table or something that broke them free. Whatever the reason , someone can probably step up and get this done. Maybe uprev , Gtm.. who knows .

theDreamer · 08-31-2011, 11:42 AM

Uprev & GTM are both working on it, Cobb dumped all NA cars to return to its roots (factory boosted cars). Which honestly was the best choice they could have made, lets them focus more for better results and customer support.

Might be in some interest for people to start bugging the stand alone companies who did well with the 350z and see if they are working on the 370z & VVEL.

SPOHN · 08-31-2011, 07:40 PM

I unlock VVEL everytime I start my car. It's about the best your going to get.

theDreamer · 08-31-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I unlock VVEL everytime I start my car. It's about the best your going to get.

Did you use a cheat code?
Left/Right/Left/Right/Up/Down/Start/Select?

b1adesofcha0s · 08-31-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Did you use a cheat code?
Left/Right/Left/Right/Up/Down/Start/Select?

Yeah but you have to remember to tap the gas twice, then brake three times, and then floor it.

Alchemy · 08-31-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Did you use a cheat code?
Left/Right/Left/Right/Up/Down/Start/Select?

Actually its up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,B,A,select,s tart to be exact.

theDreamer · 08-31-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Actually its up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,B,A,select,s tart to be exact.

I know, but this is Nissan, not Konami.
Nissan has to keep this simple sometimes.

Alchemy · 08-31-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I know, but this is Nissan, not Konami.
Nissan has to keep this simple sometimes.

Lol +1 for knowing Konami made Contra

b1adesofcha0s · 08-31-2011, 08:11 PM

I think there's one shop in the NY area which has a dyno that reads high. Not sure which one it is, but he probably went there

08-31-2011, 10:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
Deadman Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 177 Drives: 2011 370z Base+S 6MT Rep Power: 14	What sucks is Cobb would have done good things they just didn't have the time or people to keep up on the Z platform. I talked to Christian @ Cobb about a month ago and did state that there is power to be had through vvel tuning. I can post the conversation when I'm home , it was from mazdaspeedforums which I still occasionally visit. Edit: here ya go . Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256Re: Why did Cobb abandon the 370z/G37 Originally Posted by Deadman What are your thoughts on cracking VVEL? Any power to be had N/A or no? Thanks dude I am sure that power is to be had there. We simply did not have enough engineers to effectively reverse engineer those platforms and provide excellent customer service. We cannot make a product without being able to back it the way we want to. We have to also be able to provide superior customer service to back it up. Christian. O well one day something may come from someone Last edited by Deadman; 08-31-2011 at 11:03 AM.

08-31-2011, 11:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Uprev & GTM are both working on it, Cobb dumped all NA cars to return to its roots (factory boosted cars). Which honestly was the best choice they could have made, lets them focus more for better results and customer support. Might be in some interest for people to start bugging the stand alone companies who did well with the 350z and see if they are working on the 370z & VVEL. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

08-31-2011, 07:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	I unlock VVEL everytime I start my car. It's about the best your going to get. __________________

08-31-2011, 08:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	I think there's one shop in the NY area which has a dyno that reads high. Not sure which one it is, but he probably went there __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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08-31-2011, 11:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
Deadman Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 177 Drives: 2011 370z Base+S 6MT Rep Power: 14	Eh took them 3 years to rlly get the Mazda ecu cracked .. they would hit a wall of like 390 awhp no matter what psi and no matter how big the turbo... Finally it turned out to be a load table or something that broke them free. Whatever the reason , someone can probably step up and get this done. Maybe uprev , Gtm.. who knows .

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