Tuning N/A 110 octane

wayneosan · 03-28-2011, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo!

What -- just with high octane? Anything with a high O2 content, sure, but just high octane shouldn't do that.

I think he was talking about nitromethane. That's funny stuff. Do that on this engine and this is what will happen..

Every fuel has it's place.

Regarding additives; has anyone pulled the plugs to ensure they aren't leaving deposits? You know, I just had a Mustang the other day, ALL 4 o2's were smoked because the previous tuner told them that additives are ok. I am all about more hp, but I've seen time and time again o2's smoked when running an additive. I never really kept up with which ones are harmful, I know there are some with a hint of... I believe manganese (?) and I want to say, the Torco blended additive ruins o2 sensors also (I know there's more) I would say, if you want, and I hate to say it, use pure methanol and a methanol injection kit. (racing methanol, not denatured alcohol like I used to run) M-1,5 or whatever. Keep it on a switch and have UPrev map switching function for a separate map. There all the time for when someone is talking trash...

Unlike a TURBO car, if your kit cuts out you just loose a bit of power assuming you aren't running insane timing. I'll never use meth injection on a turbo car again. Too risky.

What do you guys think? I'd love to see someone try this for a back to back comparison.

1slow370 · 03-29-2011, 06:33 AM

toluene is factory component of pump gas, it's safe, yes nitromethane brings it's own oxygen to the party so you have to run huge amounts of it to stay rich, i wouldn't recomend using straight methanol as the main fuel as it corroids all aluminum engines but it should be fine for turbo injection systems(which really should be used on cars with a tuning solution that can tell when it's out of meth/water and pull timing for you like an fcon)

Kastley85891 · 04-23-2011, 09:43 AM

Personally I'd like a twin pump FI set up on E85 or an Aquamist set up.....

Alas,that is a ways off....
Interested in ur numbers with untuned numbers on different fuels, thx Jnaut for the effort.

jnaut · 04-23-2011, 09:46 AM

i never made it to the tune as i broke the clutch... now its sitting in the back of the shop...maybe some time ill have to fix it????

Kastley85891 · 04-23-2011, 10:13 AM

Bad luck dude...

wayneosan · 04-23-2011, 10:39 AM

nahh. that's just a good excuse to upgrade..

Kastley85891 · 04-23-2011, 01:10 PM

Thats Wife code right there....lol

jnaut · 04-24-2011, 12:20 PM

I have 180 miles on new clutch and flywheel broke... hummmm prolly going to sell the clutch and go with o.s.giken clutch/flywheel

wayneosan · 04-29-2011, 09:50 PM

HOLY SHEEEAT. What happened to your flywheel? How much power are you making? How many RPM's are you turning?

Was it installed improperly?

I HAVE seen it done before. I JUST TOOK A GTR apart from some other shop and the dowels weren't even in the designated holes on the flex plate damper ..soooo

jnaut · 04-30-2011, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayneosan

HOLY SHEEEAT. What happened to your flywheel? How much power are you making? How many RPM's are you turning?

Was it installed improperly?

I HAVE seen it done before. I JUST TOOK A GTR apart from some other shop and the dowels weren't even in the designated holes on the flex plate damper ..soooo

wayne, i have a shop here locally. I have installed many flywheel/chutches lol. Have you ever seen the bolts that hold flywheel to the crank? its a t55 torx, not a typically 14mm or 17mm head bold. There is no washer and the head on the t55 is so small , that the contact patch that it hits on the aluminum. After time and time again of burnout/ holeshots the aluminum get fatigued. Then the flywheel can move in the bolt holes, eventually causing the bolts to shear off in the crank. Its pretty hard to install the flywheel incorrectly hahahaha. I replaced the bolts with factory one , applied red loctite torqued to factory specs and it still came apart. time for O.S. Giken...

wayneosan · 04-30-2011, 11:00 AM

nahh. I say buy the last clutch you will ever need.

TILTON.

CZero · 05-01-2011, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

toluene is factory component of pump gas, it's safe, yes nitromethane brings it's own oxygen to the party so you have to run huge amounts of it to stay rich, i wouldn't recomend using straight methanol as the main fuel as it corroids all aluminum engines but it should be fine for turbo injection systems(which really should be used on cars with a tuning solution that can tell when it's out of meth/water and pull timing for you like an fcon)

Toluene = 114 oct.
Xylene = 117 oct.
Both are aromatic hydrocarbons.
You decide.

1slow370 · 05-04-2011, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZero

Toluene = 114 oct.
Xylene = 117 oct.
Both are aromatic hydrocarbons.
You decide.

don't

me, we mainly came down to the cost issue and for 5gals toluene is around 40% cheaper

03-29-2011, 06:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
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Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Personally I'd like a twin pump FI set up on E85 or an Aquamist set up..... Alas,that is a ways off.... Interested in ur numbers with untuned numbers on different fuels, thx Jnaut for the effort. __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

04-23-2011, 09:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	i never made it to the tune as i broke the clutch... now its sitting in the back of the shop...maybe some time ill have to fix it???? __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

04-23-2011, 10:13 AM	#20 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Bad luck dude... __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

04-23-2011, 01:10 PM	#22 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Thats Wife code right there....lol __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

04-23-2011, 10:39 AM	#21 (permalink)
wayneosan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rowlett, Texas Posts: 17 Drives: A dyno @ T1 Rep Power: 14	nahh. that's just a good excuse to upgrade..

04-24-2011, 12:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	I have 180 miles on new clutch and flywheel broke... hummmm prolly going to sell the clutch and go with o.s.giken clutch/flywheel __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

04-29-2011, 09:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
wayneosan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rowlett, Texas Posts: 17 Drives: A dyno @ T1 Rep Power: 14	HOLY SHEEEAT. What happened to your flywheel? How much power are you making? How many RPM's are you turning? Was it installed improperly? I HAVE seen it done before. I JUST TOOK A GTR apart from some other shop and the dowels weren't even in the designated holes on the flex plate damper ..soooo

04-30-2011, 11:00 AM	#26 (permalink)
wayneosan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rowlett, Texas Posts: 17 Drives: A dyno @ T1 Rep Power: 14	nahh. I say buy the last clutch you will ever need. TILTON.

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