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wayneosan 03-28-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1013852)
What -- just with high octane? Anything with a high O2 content, sure, but just high octane shouldn't do that.

I think he was talking about nitromethane. That's funny stuff. Do that on this engine and this is what will happen.. :roflpuke2:

Every fuel has it's place.

Regarding additives; has anyone pulled the plugs to ensure they aren't leaving deposits? You know, I just had a Mustang the other day, ALL 4 o2's were smoked because the previous tuner told them that additives are ok. I am all about more hp, but I've seen time and time again o2's smoked when running an additive. I never really kept up with which ones are harmful, I know there are some with a hint of... I believe manganese (?) and I want to say, the Torco blended additive ruins o2 sensors also (I know there's more) I would say, if you want, and I hate to say it, use pure methanol and a methanol injection kit. (racing methanol, not denatured alcohol like I used to run) M-1,5 or whatever. Keep it on a switch and have UPrev map switching function for a separate map. There all the time for when someone is talking trash... :)

Unlike a TURBO car, if your kit cuts out you just loose a bit of power assuming you aren't running insane timing. I'll never use meth injection on a turbo car again. Too risky.

What do you guys think? I'd love to see someone try this for a back to back comparison.

1slow370 03-29-2011 05:33 AM

toluene is factory component of pump gas, it's safe, yes nitromethane brings it's own oxygen to the party so you have to run huge amounts of it to stay rich, i wouldn't recomend using straight methanol as the main fuel as it corroids all aluminum engines but it should be fine for turbo injection systems(which really should be used on cars with a tuning solution that can tell when it's out of meth/water and pull timing for you like an fcon)

Kastley85891 04-23-2011 08:43 AM

Personally I'd like a twin pump FI set up on E85 or an Aquamist set up.....

Alas,that is a ways off....
Interested in ur numbers with untuned numbers on different fuels, thx Jnaut for the effort.

jnaut 04-23-2011 08:46 AM

i never made it to the tune as i broke the clutch... now its sitting in the back of the shop...maybe some time ill have to fix it????

Kastley85891 04-23-2011 09:13 AM

Bad luck dude...

wayneosan 04-23-2011 09:39 AM

nahh. that's just a good excuse to upgrade..

Kastley85891 04-23-2011 12:10 PM

Thats Wife code right there....lol

jnaut 04-24-2011 11:20 AM

I have 180 miles on new clutch and flywheel broke... hummmm prolly going to sell the clutch and go with o.s.giken clutch/flywheel

wayneosan 04-29-2011 08:50 PM

HOLY SHEEEAT. What happened to your flywheel? How much power are you making? How many RPM's are you turning?

Was it installed improperly?

I HAVE seen it done before. I JUST TOOK A GTR apart from some other shop and the dowels weren't even in the designated holes on the flex plate damper ..soooo

jnaut 04-30-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wayneosan (Post 1081107)
HOLY SHEEEAT. What happened to your flywheel? How much power are you making? How many RPM's are you turning?

Was it installed improperly?

I HAVE seen it done before. I JUST TOOK A GTR apart from some other shop and the dowels weren't even in the designated holes on the flex plate damper ..soooo

wayne, i have a shop here locally. I have installed many flywheel/chutches lol. Have you ever seen the bolts that hold flywheel to the crank? its a t55 torx, not a typically 14mm or 17mm head bold. There is no washer and the head on the t55 is so small , that the contact patch that it hits on the aluminum. After time and time again of burnout/ holeshots the aluminum get fatigued. Then the flywheel can move in the bolt holes, eventually causing the bolts to shear off in the crank. Its pretty hard to install the flywheel incorrectly hahahaha. I replaced the bolts with factory one , applied red loctite torqued to factory specs and it still came apart. time for O.S. Giken...

wayneosan 04-30-2011 10:00 AM

nahh. I say buy the last clutch you will ever need.

TILTON.

CZero 05-01-2011 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 1018388)
toluene is factory component of pump gas, it's safe, yes nitromethane brings it's own oxygen to the party so you have to run huge amounts of it to stay rich, i wouldn't recomend using straight methanol as the main fuel as it corroids all aluminum engines but it should be fine for turbo injection systems(which really should be used on cars with a tuning solution that can tell when it's out of meth/water and pull timing for you like an fcon)

Toluene = 114 oct.
Xylene = 117 oct.
Both are aromatic hydrocarbons.
You decide.
:ugh2:

1slow370 05-04-2011 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZero (Post 1082439)
Toluene = 114 oct.
Xylene = 117 oct.
Both are aromatic hydrocarbons.
You decide.
:ugh2:

don't :ugh2: me, we mainly came down to the cost issue and for 5gals toluene is around 40% cheaper


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