Nissan 370Z Forum  

Uprev capability

Being involved in the open source tuning community for Subaru's has sparked my interested in what exactly Uprev has the ability to modify. Perhaps an Uprev representative could chime in

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Tuning


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2011, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 21
Drives: 2004 WRX
Rep Power: 14
xsnapshot is on a distinguished road
Default Uprev capability

Being involved in the open source tuning community for Subaru's has sparked my interested in what exactly Uprev has the ability to modify.

Perhaps an Uprev representative could chime in (if there are any here), but from what I've gathered, this is likely the extent of what they can see/change. It does say "include" and not "limited to".



There are likely hundreds of different tables the ECU uses for different things, temperature compensations, barometric pressure compensations, etc. Some of these can affect drivability quite a lot. I'm just curious how comprehensive the tuning process usually is.

Any uprev tuners care to comment?
xsnapshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 12:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Not much more you need for our car than that.
Only remaining factor is VVEL which is its own control unit so it is outside the main ECU.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 04:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 21
Drives: 2004 WRX
Rep Power: 14
xsnapshot is on a distinguished road
Default

Interesting. I suppose there's not that many that NEED to be modified anyway, as most of the compensation tables are usually not used, or if they are, the effect is minimal.

I did some searching but there didn't seem to be much info out there as to exactly what a tuner typically changes when mapping an uprev unit. I did notice that Uprev has self-tuning software for those who want to go that route.

Still crossing my fingers for good gains by GTM's VVEL controller....
xsnapshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 04:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Megan370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,156
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 24
Megan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

This is what I can do with my Uprev Tuner kit
The VVEL is not supported right now and might not for a while !!
Right now We do have the Throttle mapping but no one can really tell what those numbers represent in the mapping. So good luck if you want to touch it !



5 Maps
Cylinder Trim
Fuel Target Settings
Injector Latency
K-Fuel Multiplier
Ignition Timing *High / Low Detonation / Cold*
Speed Limit Throttle Cut
Rev Limiter *Fuel Cut*
Rev Limiter (Fuel Restore)
Throttle Cut Rev Limiter
Calculated Load
Cranking
Cranking Enrichment
Idle Targets
Mass Air Flow Sensor
DTC
Adjust Injector Latency
MAF Type
Electronic Throttle
Torque Management (auto transmission)
Fuel Target
Fuel Compensation *Cold / Main*

VVEL tuning NOT Available
Megan370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 05:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I just recently downloaded the Uprev software but with running boost already I will not be touching my own car.
My research will be mostly just reading and learning how my current setup was created and why. The thing about the Z is it is a NA car from factory so you have plenty of little things to adjust, but for the most part it is already fairly well tuned from factory. My tune after doing intake, long tube headers & exhaust netted me around 5whp but brought my AFR back into a 'stable' range.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 05:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 418
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megan370z View Post
This is what I can do with my Uprev Tuner kit
The VVEL is not supported right now and might not for a while !!
Right now We do have the Throttle mapping but no one can really tell what those numbers represent in the mapping. So good luck if you want to touch it !



5 Maps
Cylinder Trim
Fuel Target Settings
Injector Latency
K-Fuel Multiplier
Ignition Timing *High / Low Detonation / Cold*
Speed Limit Throttle Cut
Rev Limiter *Fuel Cut*
Rev Limiter (Fuel Restore)
Throttle Cut Rev Limiter
Calculated Load
Cranking
Cranking Enrichment
Idle Targets
Mass Air Flow Sensor
DTC
Adjust Injector Latency
MAF Type
Electronic Throttle
Torque Management (auto transmission)
Fuel Target
Fuel Compensation *Cold / Main*

VVEL tuning NOT Available
Is the torque management a spark retard on gear shift map? Isn't there also a map that controls line pressure and shift speed?
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 06:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Megan370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,156
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 24
Megan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordo! View Post
Is the torque management a spark retard on gear shift map? Isn't there also a map that controls line pressure and shift speed?
what we were told by Uprev about this , is the Torque management tell the transmission how much torque it will be getting

that would mean it control the line pressure.
and it is much needed when FI , soo apparently it does work

the number in the Torque mapping. are in Newton Meter
Megan370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 07:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 418
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megan370z View Post
what we were told by Uprev about this , is the Torque management tell the transmission how much torque it will be getting

that would mean it control the line pressure.
and it is much needed when FI , soo apparently it does work

the number in the Torque mapping. are in Newton Meter
Hmm. Makes me wonder whether stronger hard parts are required or if this map just needs some serious tuning for boosted autos.

Still, I thought torque management was mainly concerned with protecting the driveline from shock by reducing engine output (e.g., retarding spark). I thought tuning shift firmness from line pressure was a separate variable
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2011, 10:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 21
Drives: 2004 WRX
Rep Power: 14
xsnapshot is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megan370z View Post
This is what I can do with my Uprev Tuner kit
The VVEL is not supported right now and might not for a while !!
Right now We do have the Throttle mapping but no one can really tell what those numbers represent in the mapping. So good luck if you want to touch it !



5 Maps
Cylinder Trim
Fuel Target Settings
Injector Latency
K-Fuel Multiplier
Ignition Timing *High / Low Detonation / Cold*
Speed Limit Throttle Cut
Rev Limiter *Fuel Cut*
Rev Limiter (Fuel Restore)
Throttle Cut Rev Limiter
Calculated Load
Cranking
Cranking Enrichment
Idle Targets
Mass Air Flow Sensor
DTC
Adjust Injector Latency
MAF Type
Electronic Throttle
Torque Management (auto transmission)
Fuel Target
Fuel Compensation *Cold / Main*

VVEL tuning NOT Available
Perfect! This is exactly what I was trying to find. Throttle mapping sounds like it would be similar to this table in the Subaru ECU


*note the "3D" graph below does not correspond to the above table, this is just an example. *


Where basically the computer asks for a value to assign for the opening angle of the throttle plate, vs the pedal position.

Last edited by xsnapshot; 01-25-2011 at 10:53 PM. Reason: forgot to explain
xsnapshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2011, 06:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Megan370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,156
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 24
Megan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

This is what it look like under Uprev

Megan370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need help with Uprev Megan370z Tuning 5 10-05-2012 08:18 AM
Uprev Tuners in FL??? Gmendez Intake/Exhaust 9 04-06-2011 04:49 PM
Uprev Tuned ! schrack150 Tuning 6 12-15-2010 03:28 PM
UpRev tuned my car kevin1985912 Tuning 6 08-02-2010 01:33 AM
Uprev map switching tao168 Tuning 25 07-21-2010 04:22 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2