Uprev Osiris tuning questions

Rooskey · 08-30-2010, 09:18 PM

I have read on the Uprev website and I am interested in getting there (Standard) edition but have some questions about the product. Is this something I install myself or is it more complicated than that. Also if I get this product is it worth it to do the etune or go to a place like Z1 motorsports for them to fine tune the ecu. With a good CAI and HFC's how much power should I expect with the standard edition out of the box and how much should I expect with the help of etune or Z1 motorsports? Im kinda new to this so....... Thanks for the help

IcedZ · 09-08-2010, 10:53 PM

Not to hijack, but I had similar questions...
And with the tool, can I read the default tables from the ECU? Or at least the capability to flash the original configuration back into it?

Seb@SZ · 09-09-2010, 02:05 AM

It is possible to get just an e-tune which you upload (flash) via the provided cable. This will also allow you to flash back to the stock ROM if needed. This would not require you to not do anything unless the tune is off. You would check the tune by going to a dyno or installing a wideband (measures (A\F). You other option is to get the Tuner software and if you are mentally capable of tuning a car and know how or what parameters to change this will allow you to do that. That being said, you are more apt to destroying (engine) something if you have no background or experiences with gas engines and tuning.

Your best bet is taking the Z to a certified UpRev Pro Tuner location and having them tune your car in a controlled environment and by someone competent in engine tuning. They should have the appropriate equipment to log data and safely perform your tune based on your modifications.

If needed the Pro Tuner can reflash the ECU back to stock.

If you have any questions let me know.

flashburn · 09-09-2010, 08:02 AM

If you get the Osiris package they will also send you the stock flash, so you can go completely back to stock when needed. Only takes like 10-20 seconds to do. Only requirement with UpRev is that you need a Laptop, since all they provide is the cable, license, and software.

Not sure what you mean by needing to install a wideband to get A/F measurements, as we already have sensors to read this, and its part of the data you need to collect for the E-Tune.

Q8y_drifter · 09-09-2010, 03:32 PM

Just to clarify, none of the Osiris cables come with any maps other than the stock map. So you WILL have to either e-tune it using datalogging and sending the logs to Uprev, GTM, etc. or dyno tune it at an Uprev dealer. It's not like the Cobb AP with the Stage 1, 2, etc maps.

oreoleo · 09-09-2010, 04:29 PM

How good can they e-tune with data logging compared to a live tune on a dyno / road.

Chris@FsP · 09-09-2010, 04:35 PM

If there is an Osiris tuner in your area, it's always best to have it directly tuned on a dyno. If there is no other option, then the e-tune route works, but may take 2-3 attempts to get it perfect. This takes time, as you need to send out a datalog, wait for the changes to be made, upload the new tune, and datalog again to see if the changes helped or not. If not, guess what; you're doing the whole process over until you get it right.

Q8y_drifter · 09-09-2010, 04:44 PM

A proper e-tune makes maybe 90-95% of the power that a dyno tune allows you to make with pretty much the same reliability/safety. For example, my friend's G35 was e-tuned by Sam@GTM a few months ago. Later on, an uprev tuner opened nearby and checked his maps. Everything was good on the e-tuned map. He just made a couple very slight changes and was able to extract a couple more hp's on the dyno, nothing major.

Endgame · 09-21-2010, 04:32 PM

Guys... I was told that I need to give my VIN number (no problem) and Computer code for my car for the Uprev Tune. Did anyone have to do that? How can I get the computer code???

Chris@FsP · 09-21-2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame

Guys... I was told that I need to give my VIN number (no problem) and Computer code for my car for the Uprev Tune. Did anyone have to do that? How can I get the computer code???

The UpRev dealer can use the VIN to find out the specific ECU part number for your car, so that they can send you the correct ROM file.

Endgame · 09-21-2010, 05:10 PM

cool deal. thx!

Q8y_drifter · 09-21-2010, 05:12 PM

Different Z/G's will come with different ECU part numbers. For example, my ECU is 1NB1A, which has already been cracked by Uprev previously on another 2008 G35 sedan that has the same ECU part number. Therefore all I have to do to be able to tune the car is flash the ECU with the Uprev version of the ROM file for my specific ECU part number. This Uprev version is identical to the stock ROM file from factory only this one is cracked and thus you can access all the tables to modify using Uprev Osiris.

If your ECU part number is not on the list of cracked ECUs, then you will need to do a ROM dump and send the data to Uprev so they can crack it and add it to their list. That's is why they were asking for your ECU part number. uoi can find the number either by connecting the Cipher cable, by the VIN or by taking out the ECU and looking at the number printed on it.

Endgame · 09-21-2010, 08:04 PM

how can i find it with the VIN?

Sharif@Forged · 10-05-2010, 12:11 PM

If you are trying to tune your car NA, it's nearly impossible to get repeated good results from an eTune. NA tuning is about extracting those less few whp out of the car, and each engine is setup is slightly different. With a turbo car, it's a different story. We do dozens of etunes on many different platforms, such as Evo's, Sub's, GT-R, 370Z's..etc..etc.

Your best bet is contact a shop that can you setup with a complete package with an Osirus license, and a custom dyno tune. PM em if you have any questions...we are located in the Atlanta metro area.

Endgame · 10-05-2010, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged

If you are trying to tune your car NA, it's nearly impossible to get repeated good results from an eTune. NA tuning is about extracting those less few whp out of the car, and each engine is setup is slightly different. With a turbo car, it's a different story. We do dozens of etunes on many different platforms, such as Evo's, Sub's, GT-R, 370Z's..etc..etc.

Your best bet is contact a shop that can you setup with a complete package with an Osirus license, and a custom dyno tune. PM em if you have any questions...we are located in the Atlanta metro area.

What do you mean by "it's nearly impossible to get repeated good results from an eTune"? Are you talking about a canned etune that is sent to you (similar to Cobb's methodolgy)?

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I would think Uprev's data logging process, map tweaking, and upload on a car would be good. Certainly not the best option, but 'good enough'. Are we talking about the same thing? I think we are, but want to be sure.

Also, I just got my Cipher cable for datalogging. The only thing in the package was that; no software or anything. Is that right? I just plug the cable into the OBD port, the USB into the laptop, datalog, and send the files back via email or something?

And Sharif, I am very disapointed you have not posted more pics or vids of your race prepped Z!!!!!!!!!! Don't leave us hanging!!!!!

08-30-2010, 09:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rooskey Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 974 Drives: 2014 Alpha7 GTR Rep Power: 16	Uprev Osiris tuning questions I have read on the Uprev website and I am interested in getting there (Standard) edition but have some questions about the product. Is this something I install myself or is it more complicated than that. Also if I get this product is it worth it to do the etune or go to a place like Z1 motorsports for them to fine tune the ecu. With a good CAI and HFC's how much power should I expect with the standard edition out of the box and how much should I expect with the help of etune or Z1 motorsports? Im kinda new to this so....... Thanks for the help

09-09-2010, 02:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Seb@SZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chatsworth Posts: 277 Drives: Zs Rep Power: 24	It is possible to get just an e-tune which you upload (flash) via the provided cable. This will also allow you to flash back to the stock ROM if needed. This would not require you to not do anything unless the tune is off. You would check the tune by going to a dyno or installing a wideband (measures (A\F). You other option is to get the Tuner software and if you are mentally capable of tuning a car and know how or what parameters to change this will allow you to do that. That being said, you are more apt to destroying (engine) something if you have no background or experiences with gas engines and tuning. Your best bet is taking the Z to a certified UpRev Pro Tuner location and having them tune your car in a controlled environment and by someone competent in engine tuning. They should have the appropriate equipment to log data and safely perform your tune based on your modifications. If needed the Pro Tuner can reflash the ECU back to stock. If you have any questions let me know. __________________ Z Car Specialists www.specialtyz.com Blog http://specialtyz.com/blog/

09-09-2010, 08:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	If you get the Osiris package they will also send you the stock flash, so you can go completely back to stock when needed. Only takes like 10-20 seconds to do. Only requirement with UpRev is that you need a Laptop, since all they provide is the cable, license, and software. Not sure what you mean by needing to install a wideband to get A/F measurements, as we already have sensors to read this, and its part of the data you need to collect for the E-Tune. __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

09-09-2010, 03:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 15	Just to clarify, none of the Osiris cables come with any maps other than the stock map. So you WILL have to either e-tune it using datalogging and sending the logs to Uprev, GTM, etc. or dyno tune it at an Uprev dealer. It's not like the Cobb AP with the Stage 1, 2, etc maps. __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

09-09-2010, 04:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 15	A proper e-tune makes maybe 90-95% of the power that a dyno tune allows you to make with pretty much the same reliability/safety. For example, my friend's G35 was e-tuned by Sam@GTM a few months ago. Later on, an uprev tuner opened nearby and checked his maps. Everything was good on the e-tuned map. He just made a couple very slight changes and was able to extract a couple more hp's on the dyno, nothing major. __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

09-08-2010, 10:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
IcedZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 194 Drives: 09 370 Yellow, 6MT Rep Power: 16	Not to hijack, but I had similar questions... And with the tool, can I read the default tables from the ECU? Or at least the capability to flash the original configuration back into it?

09-09-2010, 04:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
oreoleo Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 54 Drives: 09 Infiniti G37S 6MT Rep Power: 15	How good can they e-tune with data logging compared to a live tune on a dyno / road.

09-09-2010, 04:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chris@FsP Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 430 Drives: 2008 350Z TT Rep Power: 369	If there is an Osiris tuner in your area, it's always best to have it directly tuned on a dyno. If there is no other option, then the e-tune route works, but may take 2-3 attempts to get it perfect. This takes time, as you need to send out a datalog, wait for the changes to be made, upload the new tune, and datalog again to see if the changes helped or not. If not, guess what; you're doing the whole process over until you get it right.

09-21-2010, 04:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	Guys... I was told that I need to give my VIN number (no problem) and Computer code for my car for the Uprev Tune. Did anyone have to do that? How can I get the computer code???

09-21-2010, 05:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	cool deal. thx!

09-21-2010, 05:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 15	Different Z/G's will come with different ECU part numbers. For example, my ECU is 1NB1A, which has already been cracked by Uprev previously on another 2008 G35 sedan that has the same ECU part number. Therefore all I have to do to be able to tune the car is flash the ECU with the Uprev version of the ROM file for my specific ECU part number. This Uprev version is identical to the stock ROM file from factory only this one is cracked and thus you can access all the tables to modify using Uprev Osiris. If your ECU part number is not on the list of cracked ECUs, then you will need to do a ROM dump and send the data to Uprev so they can crack it and add it to their list. That's is why they were asking for your ECU part number. uoi can find the number either by connecting the Cipher cable, by the VIN or by taking out the ECU and looking at the number printed on it. __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

09-21-2010, 08:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	how can i find it with the VIN?

10-05-2010, 12:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
Sharif@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 840 Drives: 2009 GT-R, 2010 370Z Rep Power: 18	If you are trying to tune your car NA, it's nearly impossible to get repeated good results from an eTune. NA tuning is about extracting those less few whp out of the car, and each engine is setup is slightly different. With a turbo car, it's a different story. We do dozens of etunes on many different platforms, such as Evo's, Sub's, GT-R, 370Z's..etc..etc. Your best bet is contact a shop that can you setup with a complete package with an Osirus license, and a custom dyno tune. PM em if you have any questions...we are located in the Atlanta metro area. __________________ Sharif@Forgedperformance.com General Manager/Certified Tuner/NASA-PCA-BMWCAA Instructor JRZ RS1's Available NOW...PM me Cobb ProTuner, Uprev ECU Flash, FCON Vpro, Haltech, Motec Certified

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