Huh...you downloaded the unicorn blood canned tune right? :tup:

No I think I got the "does a bear sh!t in the woods?" tune

Yep, I can echo this too.

I was told he is keeping an eye out for communities that need something, specifically.

<- there is a tune for that? I got the real thing!

Is it worthless to get the AP if you only have an aftermarket CBE exhaust? Are the gains (if any) worth it for? Of course, I'll add other more mods....but for now....would it be worth it?

might get a few hp gain. I wouldnt say its worthless but i wouldnt say buy it right now. Wait until you have all your mods that relates to air (intakes, headers, downpipes, exhaust)

also keep in mind, AAM is selling them currently for 495 with a canned tune, from what i've been told, its not going to stay that way forever, so you might wanna jump on it now.

Well gentlemen, I'm thinking that i'm going to drive 3 hours down to Plano and have Cobb themselves try to squeeze some more power outta this bad boy, have any of you ever been there?

Last time I checked they were charging $100 extra for a canned tune, it isn't free like it was a few months ago.

ouch. Well sorry DL :(

RED - I would holdout for a bit on the custom tune till they have finished the time attack series, COBB are using this to test there new defs fully (or so I was told from a reliable COBB source).
That way you get the custom tune on the full set of variables.
To answer your original ? though, I have not been to Plano though know a few non Z guys who have and they have all been very happy, I believe Calvin Dotson (I stand to be corrected) is the tuner there and does good work, he was originally coached by Tim Bailey - that guy is a real decent brain.
I wish the Pro tuner license was a lot cheaper , **** I would hook you guys up for nothing via road tuning with LM-1 WB etc.

Are their "canned tunes" good for cars with only an aftermarket CBE or is it intended with cars with all air flow mods installed?

they have saved tunes for every variable.

I suppose I can do that. Twould be nice if VVEL was unlocked by then. Thanks for the info/advice.

So if they can crack the vvel, what areas will be made available then to help us get more power?

Would not share specifics with me but did confirm they are really 'testing' the tunes on the track, interesting to know that the track car uses tuned stock MAF's, as in stock intake boxes.

I am in no way a spokesman but have had a lot of dealings with them in different areas in the past, I respect a lot of the guys there.

So is the consensus to hold off until Cobb finishes their additional track testing? Or would you be able to download the updates after purchase?

I just pulled the trigger on the Cobb with the AAM competiton map, I'll do a dyno before and after I install it. I have a G37 though but the results
should be similiar since we're both VQ37HR.

that would be awesome man, im curious to see what the canned map can do.

That would be very cool. What mods do you have?

So far just, Injen CAI, GTM test pipes, and FI 18" catback. Im getting a pulley system soon but I don't think a tune would help with that so I decided to just get the Cobb now.
And the map is also for 93 octane, hope that helps a little more.

Yeah, I also just bought the Cobb AP from AAM with a canned tune. I'll be getting an FI 18" CBE, HFC's, and I already have K&N Drop-ins. I'll be doing 3 sets of dyno runs to compare without the two exhaust mods, after, and after the tune is applied. I'll be sure to post the results.

awesome fellas, if you guys could post separate review/dyno threads under this topic when you're done that would be great.

Nice to see all the comparos, Knives, you will be good with a canned map, if new areas of editing are released a firmware upgrade would cover it, my advice to wait was based of a full custom tune.

Would someone mind providing a short description of what it means to crack the vvel and what this means in term of tuning?

Basically - Ability to control lift, advance and retard of cam shafts

More air in, quicker air out coupled with a retune of fueling and timing should make for decent gains.

FI equipped vehicles will be able to retune to be quite a different 'feel'

Thanks, exactly what I wanted - a few sentences dummied down.
Could such a thing have adverse effects on the engine? I mean just messing with A/F ratio seems harmless enough within reason, but this starts getting a little more complex.

Sure it can man, you need to know what you are doing, any variable with in your ECU can seriously F you up.
A decent tuner will be able to get teh best from your set up, variable Cam timing is nothing new, but it is un known presently how the VQ platform will react short term or long term, guess we will find out.
In short though too much advance will bog you down, mess your fueling and your timing, screw with your EGT's etc etc, too much retard will not allow enough air flow and can cause a slow revving sluggish top end, you get the picture? as with evrything, all about balance.

I'd like to thank everyone for their AP orders!

I just got mine today. While I was installing it, screen says This version of AP does not support this vehicle. So I couldn't install it. Does it matter if I have 2010 ECU??? My dealer had swap 09 ECU model to 10 ECU model because of the high pitch noise.

Ya it matters dude, you need to pull that rom file with your AP and send it off to COBB to get it added to their 2010 release when it comes.
Although it wont install, you can pull the stock file from the ECU

OOI who here is running an AAM AP tune on a stock Z?

Omg!!!:eek:

ahhh that sucks, sorry man, just might have to wait a bit, :shakes head: shitty..

So basically, 2009 and 2010 model use different firmware? Or different version of AP? If the only difference is firmware, better wait till they relase the firmware for 2010 model? Or I should return this. I searched a lot before I placed the order. But I couldn't find that 2010 model not work with this version of ap.:shakes head: neway... I called Cobb support center and the Nissan programer will give answer tomorrow...

Keep a hold of it, it happened to me on my 09, it was over Xmas break lol COBB sorted it for me NP. Its the same AP but it does not recognise the ECU id that is all.
Z is still relatively new and the new releases of ECU handles need to be incorperated to the 'accepted' database for the AP to see it and know it is able to install.

This will help

http://www.accessecu.com/support/docs/UserDump.html

So is the consensus to hold out on buying one of these until they crack vvel?

Made a thread in this section but no one answerd, hopefully it can get answerd here. As it says in my sig, i have a 100shot of nitrous set up. I'm going to be buying Cobb AP, how hard is it for a average joe to take of timing retard off the tune? Or it REALLY required to be done by a pro. I have no intentions at adjusting the rest of the tune on my own. All i need to do is take a few degree's of timing off just to test my system out, then go get a proper tune.

Buy your AP, download the software and take a look, it aint that tough