Nissan 370Z Forum  

What mods before tuning? Intake, exhaust, etc.

So far I just have an HKS Hi-Power exhaust. I would like an Ecutek and have Specialtyz e-tune. But before I do that, should I get an intake? How much

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Tuning


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-18-2023, 09:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Southern California
Posts: 112
Drives: 370z Nismo
Rep Power: 32
NissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond repute
Default What mods before tuning? Intake, exhaust, etc.

So far I just have an HKS Hi-Power exhaust. I would like an Ecutek and have Specialtyz e-tune. But before I do that, should I get an intake? How much of a difference will an intake make on a tuned car? I am thinking not much...

As for high flow cats, straight pipes, etc, those are out as I am in CARB land and don't want to bother.
NissanParty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2023, 06:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
2011 Nismo#91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,401
Drives: slowly
Rep Power: 40569
2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

In general the Z benefits very little from an intake unless your doing many other mods. If the only mods you plan on doing is the intake and already the exhaust their will be little benefit from a tune I feel. IMO if it was my money I'd save that $1k or so from the intake and tune and go with a little improved suspension be it sway bars or a better set of coilovers. Or some looks improvements.
__________________
GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs
2011 Nismo#91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2023, 09:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Southern California
Posts: 112
Drives: 370z Nismo
Rep Power: 32
NissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 View Post
In general the Z benefits very little from an intake unless your doing many other mods. If the only mods you plan on doing is the intake and already the exhaust their will be little benefit from a tune I feel. IMO if it was my money I'd save that $1k or so from the intake and tune and go with a little improved suspension be it sway bars or a better set of coilovers. Or some looks improvements.
Based on other threads here it sounds like intake and exhaust + tune can add 20-30whp. Example:

What HP & Torque Gains Expected With These Mods
NissanParty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2023, 09:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: California
Posts: 785
Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6
Rep Power: 22898
Ventruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond reputeVentruck has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Major gain from the tune is throttle mapping and maybe some improvement to the general power curve. I thought standalone is was the most significant engine upgrade, as far as sensations got. Peak power only goes so far, and hardly translates into anything more sensational after this point. Would probably just count more for a track build, if lap times and the pace had a real purpose.

I think exhaust and tune is enough before you go down the rabbit hole of extra spending. You have the sound you probably want, and then a better map. If you're super protective of CARB, you maybe don't want to do the tune at all.

So +1 on suspension/chassis work. If you wanted more power it's either boost or a different car altogether.
Ventruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2023, 09:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Southern California
Posts: 112
Drives: 370z Nismo
Rep Power: 32
NissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond reputeNissanParty has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ventruck View Post
Major gain from the tune is throttle mapping and maybe some improvement to the general power curve. I thought standalone is was the most significant engine upgrade, as far as sensations got. Peak power only goes so far, and hardly translates into anything more sensational after this point. Would probably just count more for a track build, if lap times and the pace had a real purpose.

I think exhaust and tune is enough before you go down the rabbit hole of extra spending. You have the sound you probably want, and then a better map. If you're super protective of CARB, you maybe don't want to do the tune at all.

So +1 on suspension/chassis work. If you wanted more power it's either boost or a different car altogether.
I don't care about CARB but when you run without cats, it smells very distinctive and I don't want to get sent to a ref that's all. I'll flash back to stock for smog or buy a second ECU for tuning and keep the stock one for smogging.

As for suspension I have the nismo trim so I don't really want to mess with suspension, from the factory is already pretty good. If I wanted to mess with suspension and such, I'd have gotten a regular model and upgraded.

I used a Hondata on my old Civic and the best thing about it was the throttle responsiveness, no delay or "rev hang". Made the car much better to drive. That alone made the tune worth it! I am just trying to gauge how much more HP I will gain with what I have now, by adding a tune. And if I would get any additional power by adding intake. I don't think the intake would make a noticeable difference.

Edit: As far as engine performance goes there is not much more I can do besides intake, exhaust (test pipes). The next step is FI.

Last edited by NissanParty; 09-19-2023 at 09:42 PM.
NissanParty is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Upgrades - Admin Tuning 3'' Intakes, EPS Tuning BB TB's, AAM Comp Intake Manifold 1cintron Intake/Exhaust 20 10-20-2018 11:57 AM
370z Engine remap suggestion after cold intake and full tomei exhaust mods mousewei84 Engine & Drivetrain 6 10-31-2016 08:09 AM
High Altitude, heat, tuning and intake/exhaust BlackZeda Engine & Drivetrain 9 12-18-2011 08:31 PM
My New Intake & Exhaust Mods Pics SPOHN Intake/Exhaust 16 03-14-2011 08:45 AM
What intake/exhaust mods won't kill warranty? kannibul Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 3 06-15-2009 04:16 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2