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G37Sam 01-29-2010 08:03 PM

Got my car tuned with UpRev
 
So I get a call from a local UpRev dealer saying they think they might be able to tune my car (been hearing that for the past year now). They ask me to come in and have my ECU ROM file read and sent to UpRev in attempt to have it cracked and what do you know...

A few days later I get another phone call saying my friends G37 (Gulf Spec) was tuned flawlessly! I book an appointment and get down with that!

My current mods are: Stillen G3 Intakes, FI Test Pipes & Catback and UR Crank Pulley. I'll let the pix do the talking now:


Strapped on the heart-breaker dyno (Mustang Dyno)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/316...1001281515.jpg



Wideband Sensor in place

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3...1001281517.jpg


And we're ready for action!

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7...1001281615.jpg


Almost an hour later, the tuner was done. My main issue of running too lean was solved thankfully as you can see.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4126/afrk.jpg

According to the tuner, unlike American Muscle cars which he tunes a lot, our VQ's barely respond to changes in AF ratio in the power department, but reducing the AFR to 12.5 ultimately allowed him to push ignition timing even more which was the key! I honestly was not expecting that much of a gain but that tuner seemed to know what he was doing from the first phone conversation I had with him. My maximum power came in at 7200rpm before the tune, after messing with AFR & Ignition Timing, the car kept pulling up all the way to 7600rpm!

Here's a video's of both runs:

YouTube - G37 Dyno, Before & After UpRev Tune.wmv

And finally, the dyno sheet:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5382/dynorun.jpg

Before the tune, I put down 262whp @ 7200rpm & 289 N.m
After the tune, I put down 296who @ 7600rpm * 321 N.m

I was very impressed with the numbers, but those don't mean anything if my butt dyno doesn't confirm. So I took the car out for a spin and all I could say was wow. None of the mods I ever installed ever felt like that after their install, you can feel the gains from really low. Even on 5th on the highway, it's takes less effort to speed up. On 1st, don't even dream about driving in a straight line on tarmac. We went Auto crossing today and it honestly felt a tad harder to drive due to its tail breaking loose with every blip on that throttle. I cannot be any happier to be honest, not without boost at least lol

Another cool trick they did was upload a valet-map which you can cycle to via cruise control. The valet map basically limited the revs to 3k and the speed to 70kph (43mph) I recorded a ghetto video of that:

YouTube - 3k rpm cutoff.wmv

Don't waist your time on preloaded maps or maps that don't tamper around with your ignition timing. UpRev is the way to go!!

My G is back to life!

vortrex 01-30-2010 02:40 PM

34HP and 32TQ gain from a tune and nobody is commenting on this?

G37Sam 01-30-2010 02:56 PM

LOL well it has like 50 views or so, I just thought I'd share since it's the same engine

B1nks 01-30-2010 03:04 PM

good deal man !

frost 01-30-2010 03:06 PM

Awesome gains! Not what I was expecting at all.

G37Sam 01-30-2010 03:14 PM

Yeah same here wasn't expecting numbers in the 30's to be honest..

frost 01-30-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 381815)
Yeah same here wasn't expecting numbers in the 30's to be honest..

As I started reading, I was guessing ~10 in my head. You blew my mind sir.

G37Sam 01-30-2010 03:24 PM

I'll pass that message to the tuner :tiphat:

StillenZ 01-30-2010 03:39 PM

That's freakin awesome man... I can't wait to get mine tuned... I'm sure its runnin' lean right now... I was leaning towards the Cobb but these results are really nice...

I'm sure it has a lot to do with the tuner though. I need to find someone that knows what they are doing around here.... Still have yet to do that.

theDreamer 01-30-2010 03:40 PM

So what does the Uprev tune do now?
As far as I was aware it can really only mess with AF mix, Uprev has not cracked VVEL nor timing table.

G37Sam 01-30-2010 03:42 PM

I havent read anywhere about someone cracking the VVEL but UpRev can mess with your AF and Ignition Timing. I was running around 34 degrees BTDC at high rpms before the tune. He wouldn't give me the after tune though lol

theDreamer 01-30-2010 03:43 PM

Sounds good, I am not sure if any has cracked VVEL but just wondering if that contributed to your awesome gains. Guess not, which makes them even better. :D

puckshaw 01-30-2010 03:55 PM

Wow, now this is more like it! I've been very disappointed in the gains from tuning until this post. Hopefully more tuners can pull off those types of results!

roplusbee 01-30-2010 03:56 PM

Oh snap. That is what's up. I just hope I don't have to go to Canada to get that kind of tuning done, lol. It would be a looooooooong drive.

G37Sam 01-30-2010 03:56 PM

Yeah I really wouldnt mind someone messing with my VVEL especially with the Long Tube headers combo

6MT 01-30-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vortrex (Post 381780)
34HP and 32TQ gain from a tune and nobody is commenting on this?


:werd:

theDreamer 01-30-2010 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 381864)
Yeah I really wouldnt mind someone messing with my VVEL especially with the Long Tube headers combo

Exactly, I am really wanting to get a tune once the LTH are on but was hoping someone would crack VVEL by then.

MrBMW 01-30-2010 04:50 PM

Awesome stuff to see Sam. Really might have to start looking into this myself as we have the same setup. Different car body though LOL.

bluestyle55 01-30-2010 10:12 PM

Do the mustang dino's usually read that low? Isn't 260's low for a baseline with those mods? The G37s get almost the same numbers as a Z with those mods right?

What is this tuner doing that the rest of the Z tuning world has failed to do?

What is the name/number of this tuner?

bluestyle55 01-30-2010 10:15 PM

And to clairify... Your baseline includes the CBE, Intake, etc....right?

G37Sam 01-31-2010 03:04 AM

Yes, as mentioned in my thread my baseline included I/Test Pipes/Exhaust/UR Pulley

The Mustang dyno is known to read low, theirs for some reason reads way too low. An HR 350Z read 205-210whp before my eyes

nixxer 01-31-2010 04:00 AM

I was speaking to a local Uprev tuner and he told me that his contacts with Uprev and japan have found a you cant just tune these engines like any other car and expect gain. He said it needs to be done in an unorthodox method a 'certain way' to actually yield large power gains instead of the tiny ones we have seen. Ill know for sure when I get my headers installed and will be sure to post my results when its done. I couldn't get anything out of him as to what he was hinting at, but apparently there *is* something special that can be done to get these kinds of gains NA. Did your tuner tell you what he was doing by chance?

dainedazz 01-31-2010 05:20 AM

great gains Sam! i know you cant wait for the FI LTH! do u have them pre-ordered?

G37Sam 01-31-2010 07:39 AM

Yup ;) my name's number 2 on the G37 list :D

G37Sam 01-31-2010 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hngonzalez (Post 382580)
I was speaking to a local Uprev tuner and he told me that his contacts with Uprev and japan have found a you cant just tune these engines like any other car and expect gain. He said it needs to be done in an unorthodox method a 'certain way' to actually yield large power gains instead of the tiny ones we have seen. Ill know for sure when I get my headers installed and will be sure to post my results when its done. I couldn't get anything out of him as to what he was hinting at, but apparently there *is* something special that can be done to get these kinds of gains NA. Did your tuner tell you what he was doing by chance?

Never will a tuner tell you what he did, he wouldn't even let me datalog after the tune. It's his secret recipe. But I know for a fact that he advanced timing big time as it was VERY retarded before the tune as my datalogs showed me

bluestyle55 01-31-2010 08:18 AM

IMO the secrecy seems a little shady to me. How do we know if this tune safe is if we don’t know roughly what was done?
(tuners…help me out here) I know very little about tuning but correct me if I am wrong… Couldn’t you dial in some unsafe peramiters that would yeild higher numbers in the tune but then cause the engine to run in ways that will cause damage??

G37Sam 01-31-2010 08:22 AM

The worst that can happen would be your engine knocking from the advanced timing but our engines are smart enough to retard that once it senses knocking thanks to the knock sensor.

My AF ratio is at the optimum level too, can't complain much :)

cotizi 01-31-2010 09:01 AM

man thats crazy. I'm planning on going back in to get a re-tune once my headers and pulley are on

m4a1mustang 01-31-2010 10:06 AM

Those are some great gains with the tune, Sam!

And to echo everyone's comments already... the Mustang dyno's read low.

dainedazz 01-31-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 382609)
Yup ;) my name's number 2 on the G37 list :D

NOICE! i'm #11 here :)

biggersNISMO 01-31-2010 10:38 AM

Wow, those are some epic numbers!
Good stuff. UPREV is real big in the VQ community, and they never cease to impress.

G37Sam 01-31-2010 01:07 PM

True that, it's one reason GTM uses their flash in most of their turbo kits

bluestyle55 01-31-2010 02:17 PM

Surprised more people are not commenting on a 30hp gain from a tune.

I just realized this tuner is in Dubai....dammit

G37Sam 01-31-2010 04:17 PM

The 30whp gain is also due to shifting from 7200 to 7600 RPM too, I didn't make the claim and run away, I scanned my dyno sheet for you and posted up

CrownR426 01-31-2010 04:22 PM

Great results!
Would love to get a clip of how your whip sounds!

G37Sam 01-31-2010 04:44 PM

I posted dyno video's in my first post did you miss them?

mpp9 01-31-2010 04:59 PM

Is it just me or is 260 whp with intake test pipes and catback even on a mustang dyno crazy low? Id imagine the gain from the tune is in large part from correcting what you apparently didnt gain from breather mods. Nonetheless assuming u were at 240 whp stock thats still a 50 whp gain if ur at 290 now with tune.

CrownR426 01-31-2010 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpp9 (Post 383089)
Is it just me or is 260 whp with intake test pipes and catback even on a mustang dyno crazy low? Id imagine the gain from the tune is in large part from correcting what you apparently didnt gain from breather mods. Nonetheless assuming u were at 240 whp stock thats still a 50 whp gain if ur at 290 now with tune.

+1 True...
Shouldn't you have atleast high 270's stock?
I thought you would have at least 314.

theDreamer 01-31-2010 05:04 PM

I think 240 was his baseline with some mods, but he went back with more and ran 262 before he got a tune and then 290+ after the tune.
You guys have to realize, not all dynos are the same, yes it is a Mustang but that does not mean it is going to read like ones in the states. Weather conditions, altitude, etc. all play factors into these read outs.

G37Sam 01-31-2010 05:10 PM

+1 to what Dreamer is saying. Mustang Dyno's aren't the same. You can choose the "load" you want that dyno to have before buying it depending on HP ratings of the cars you'll be dyno'ing. That Mustang Dyno could measure up to 2000AWHP I believe.. so you can imagine how low it will read for us. I did put down 262whp with all the breathers, didn't do a dyno run when I was totally stock so I can't comment on that however, on a dyno day a while back on a dynojet, my car put down around 30 horses more than a bone stock G37


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