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Usually around 600 or more, you buy the cable (software is free) and then the dyno time is usually built into the purchase.
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Usually around 600 or more, you buy the cable (software is free) and then the dyno time is usually built into the purchase.
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If its jsut $600 then I would probably pay that much for 30 more HP/TQ.
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G37 what was the lowest gain and the avg gain? Im looking more for a consistant number thru all the rpms than a high number.
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Well it varies from shop to shop, you should check up uprev.com and find your local tuner and get a quote from them. From what I was told is you can just get a tune & dyno time or you can also buy the cable so you can access it when you want without going to a shop.
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UpRev is in Austin that's where my Z went to get tuned but I did not see 30 more HP but is was a big improvement Jared and Rich and the guys know there stuff.Had my 07 Titan I did see 30 more HP on the Texas Titan M35 is next on the list ![]()
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Since this isnt a a static tune that is the same for all Zs, its really up to the shop tech to get everything right for numbers like this right? So one shop might get it and another might not unless they share notes.
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Not all engines are the same, if I upload my map and send it to you, even if you may have the same mods you might not see the same exact gains. My tuner did around 7-8 remaps before walking over to me saying "Sam, I don't think we can squeeze any more out of her"
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Now do the other shops know what he knows and can do the same or better, thats my concern since its not coming from a master database or something like that. I would be fine paying $500 for a tune according to mods even tho it might only be 95% perfect, thats still better than nothing. My other FIs werelike that and they worked great. A couple people spent more money to try and get it to 100% and they only got an extra couple of hp out of the 1K cost. Most CAIs and aftermarket exhaust make about the same gains so it could be feasable but Im not 100% sure due to the vvel.
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What does the VVEL have to do with anything?
People are pushing 10 pounds of boost without even touching the VVEL..
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I hope uprev is keeping a copy of these maps on file for future references, then they might jsut be able to sell the file without a dyno tune.
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I was wondering the same myself. The Z comes from the factory tuned for the lowest emissions, agreed? That equates to a very lean running engine which was shown in the base run AFR's ranging from low to mid 14's. Tuners will lower the AFR which will result in a cooler running engine i.e. runs richer and at the same time advance the timing to produce the gains. I expect your particular tuner advanced the timing well in excess of 2 deg and probably throughout the load range to the brink in which the engine will begin to 'ping' at any given load/rpm. That is the point where your power is peaking. I'm not surprised that you gained 30HP which is about a 10% increase from a leaned out engine to begin with imo. I have a Screaming Eagle Race Tuner program for my Harley which lets you play with dozens of variables but basically all you need to to do to get about 90% of the performance from the engine without using a dyno is adjust timing and AFR. There is more than one way to fool the ecu into increasing the fuel into the engine depending upon the variables that allow adjustment. On Harley's, one way is to adjust the volumetric efficiency tables. Increase for an increase in fuel delivery which lowers the AFR. To get the most out of a Harley, the narrow band O2 sensors need to be changed out to wide band. Anyway, the twin cam Harley in essence is a 2 cylinder Chevy small block. Anyway, for the Harley crowd, maps are readily available for downloading free for just about any mods. These maps will get you to about 90% or better performance. I personnaly don't track my car so I wouldn't take it to a tuner and spend say $500 just to gain say 3-5 more HP (90% to 100%) using someone else's dyno tuned map in my ecu. I would be happy with a canned map and tweak by seat of the pants from there. I'm sure Nissan has built in some parameters that can't be exceeded even by a tuner such as timing advance in order to protect the engine. For those who want to tune the engine themselves go for it but you must have a good working knowledge of the inter-relationships for the different variables in the map. If you don't then don't bother with self tuning or you will probably due more harm than good to your engine.
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