EcuTek - 'The Way Forward' Initiative
 

Have you guys seen this news yet?

https://www.gtrlife.com/cdn-cgi/imag...wd-jpg.407274/

So when you change out your OEM "CAT" to High-flow or test-pipe, if you get CEL, you cannot bypass?

(UPREV) ? I wonder if they are going down the same road? or being forced.

Everybody knew this was coming.

That's pretty much the tl;dr of it.

UpRev? I'm not sure what their status is on the EPA crackdown.

I figured it was coming since Cobb did the same thing. I just didn't know if people saw that announcement giving actual dates now.

EcuTek - 'The Way Forward' Initiative
 

I thought some people use a “J-bung” on the test pipes so that the sensor isn’t reading the accurate value and so the O2 sensor functionality can remain untouched.

Am I wrong?


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If the tuner wants to stay in business. He will be doing this to. :shakes head:

No, but I think it still happens. (what I'm reading anyways)

Ooof, I'm mid tuning process right now with my car and am very worried what this will mean for my setup. I'm hijacking O2 sensors for ethanol and oil pressure inputs, and have a decent amount of DTCs I should suppress.

Maybe this will kickoff more standalones or at least open-source options.

If you can find a stand alone. The prices have shot up.

So how will this work for those who use Ecutek in different countries where the EPA has no jurisdiction?

The GTR forum has some answers. Link: https://www.gtrlife.com/threads/ecut.../#post-4175966

One of the Q/A from a tuner:
Q- Who is affected?
A- If you have a non USDM ROM file in your car (JDM, Asia, Middle East, Europe, Australia, etc), this does not impact you in any way. Note the change is USDM ROMs. Not "USA Based Tuners", or "Cars in the United States".
If you have an existing tune, this does not impact you in any way.
If your vehicle does not have non emissions compliant modifications, this does not impact you in any way.
If you are starting a new tune in the end of May, your tune will no longer be able to have emissions codes disabled.

Thanks for the info thedreamer wish I could get the airflow upgrades and a touch up tune done by then... its hard to sell an exhasut system where I live but I need to do that before getting another one...

I'm gonna assume Canada falls in the "USA" category.

Just means tuning is going to get more expensive and things are going to have to get done through the can bus. If your tuner is smart this shouldn’t effect any cars tuned before this stupid update. Just don’t update through Ecu tek.

Lol stand-alones have always been an option. This VQ community are to cheap and broke to install one.

For the VHR, there's only two options I know of, Motec and Syvecs, which means only certain shops. VVEL and dual DBW makes it a little more difficult....basically a huge jump from Ecutek/Uprev to a standalone vs other cars that can get away with AEM EMS, Haltech Elites, or even Megasquirts.

Side note: I'm hoping to go home this winter and finally work on my car, but decided to go with Syvecs

You forgot Emtron.

Can someone please confirm this?

Well, European/UK ECUs range from $2-600 (converted from GBP/Euro) so there's always a way... or just do like Elmo said and not update/turn off auto-updates if you already have Ecutek.

When you say this do you mean as tuner not to update or for a consumer? I’ve always updated the latest software on the laptop for any bug fixes etc in regards to whatever program fixes may have been done but it doesn’t overwrite your ROM and still allows all access to logging, dtc’s etc so I’m not sure what your trying to say. I don’t think anything is going to change here unless you load some new ROM to your ECM. I’m I missing something?

Update and find out

If the main issue is not being able to disable the O2 sensor then this isn't so big of an issue I think people are making it out to be. For a while now a lot of states didn't allow you to pass emissions with a emissions sensor disabled. NJ I know first hand, mini cats work, and are very inexpensive now days. Prosport has one and I've used bigdaddiesgarage.com and they worked.

Yup, and let us know how that goes; I'm not taking that chance until someone else does and confirms :rofl2:

This is something more along the lines that Husam/Seb/Eugene/etc. should answer, but from my take: It's not only the O2 sensors, it's also the Evap and possibly the modification of the "OBD tables outside of OEM min/max parameters" (or whatever it says) that could potentially seriously limit the ability of a tuner to tune a vehicle, especially a boosted one.

Ooof, got a hard stop in the app this morning requiring a firmware update in order to connect to the car. Blocks me from using the dashboard and using my phone to data log.

Anyone else hit this yet? Very paranoid that any update will ruin plans, because I'm currently hijacking the rear O2 sensors for oil pressure and ethanol content.

What if you put your phone into airplane mode or on a laptop just disable Wi-Fi?

I said F it and went standalone. Dang expensive though. 20k or so and not done yet.

I keep hearing about a can bus module you will be able to plug in to get the extra sensor capability.

Confirmed over the Boosted VQs FB group that this firmware update is still safe.

Jeeeesus..... I've been considering a standalone as a backup and naively figured it'd be more like 5-10k to do, and not 20!

Well I kind a went a little overboard. LOL Adding oil pressure, fuel pressure, coolant pressure, 4- IAT sensors, 2- EMAP sensors, and 6 cylinder EGT sensors. It was expensive because we had to take the engine in and out a couple of times to fit it all. Plus, I added a 5in dash to be able to see what I am monitoring live. They will be logged also. I needed a couple extra boxes to be able to hook it all up. Wiring it all in is not cheap either. All the hardware and sensors were right at 15k.

All the standalone prices have went up also just like everything else.

T1 posted a Motec M150 for sale. It last all of 10 min. LOL It went for a premium.