No Catalytic Converters

Tractionless · 06-03-2021, 12:45 PM

Just because you don't live in an inspection state doesn't mean you can remove the cats. In Florida you can receive a $2000 fine for doing so!

SteveVQ · 08-12-2021, 03:07 PM

Well FL has no testing sites and no emission requirements for registration....I'm going to do whatever the fuq I want to my car until that changes. Cops don't care at all down here from what I've seen. Never been pulled over and I've had cops sit behind me for like 5 minutes in traffic and I know they could smell my car....because all the prius drivers give me dirty looks.

The FED is corrupt as all hell anyway from top to bottom, I don't give a shiz about their mandates or Orwellian 1984 rules.
"Rules for thee, but not for me"...pfft shove it.

Spooler · 08-13-2021, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveVQ

Well FL has no testing sites and no emission requirements for registration....I'm going to do whatever the fuq I want to my car until that changes. Cops don't care at all down here from what I've seen. Never been pulled over and I've had cops sit behind me for like 5 minutes in traffic and I know they could smell my car....because all the prius drivers give me dirty looks.

The FED is corrupt as all hell anyway from top to bottom, I don't give a shiz about their mandates or Orwellian 1984 rules.
"Rules for thee, but not for me"...pfft shove it.

If you are quite about it, you probably won't have any issues. If you are disrespectful, loud, and obnoxious like above, The the EPA will rain hell down on all of us.

SteveVQ · 08-13-2021, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

If you are quite about it, you probably won't have any issues. If you are disrespectful, loud, and obnoxious like above, The the EPA will rain hell down on all of us.

Gov starts over stepping its bounds and becomes too authoritarian, freedom loving patriots get loud about it usually.

2011 Nismo#91 · 08-13-2021, 05:44 AM

Those who sell or install devices to defeat emission controls can be fined over $4,800 per defeat device, and dealers can be fined over $48,000 per tampered vehicle. In 2019 one diesel performance shop was fined over a million dollars. Though its very rare that anyone actually gets fined ever, a disgruntled costumer can make threats and scare a shop to just stop doing it for awhile.

Spooler · 08-13-2021, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Those who sell or install devices to defeat emission controls can be fined over $4,800 per defeat device, and dealers can be fined over $48,000 per tampered vehicle. In 2019 one diesel performance shop was fined over a million dollars. Though its very rare that anyone actually gets fined ever, a disgruntled costumer can make threats and scare a shop to just stop doing it for awhile.

It has happened to several folks in the Diesel industry. That crap started back in 2007 when particulate filters were introduced. I can remember a couple of companies that went out of business.

JARblue · 08-13-2021, 12:31 PM

Unless referring to a racing application, no one should be arguing there is a need to remove the cats. Of course there's no need. There are pros and cons to removing them. Each person's end goal and level of risk aversion is going to determine whether removing the cats is the right decision for them.

Personally, I think test pipes are too loud for certain types of street driving. But I like the smell of gas, so I chose to live with the noise.

redondoaveb · 08-13-2021, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Unless referring to a racing application, no one should be arguing there is a need to remove the cats. Of course there's no need. There are pros and cons to removing them. Each person's end goal and level of risk aversion is going to determine whether removing the cats is the right decision for them.

Personally, I think test pipes are too loud for certain types of street driving. But I like the smell of gas, so I chose to live with the noise.

No need to remove them but if your car is boosted there would be a need to move them downstream more. My mil spec cats are in the lead pipes

zeeder · 08-13-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Unless referring to a racing application, no one should be arguing there is a need to remove the cats. Of course there's no need. There are pros and cons to removing them. Each person's end goal and level of risk aversion is going to determine whether removing the cats is the right decision for them.

Personally, I think test pipes are too loud for certain types of street driving. But I like the smell of gas, so I chose to live with the noise.

Interesting, I'm the opposite, I can't stand the smell of gas. My old 350, that I bought used, had the cats removed and the smell of gas really got to me sometimes. My current car has resonated HFCs and it's a bit louder than I would prefer but I'm used to it. And, it wasn't worth the cost of new cats to swap them out...lol.

Rusty · 08-13-2021, 06:26 PM

You guys don't know what real gas smells like. Back before the 80's. You could get 98 octane from the local gas station pump. And every car didn't have cats on it. Every heavy truck rolled coal. 2 stroke motorcycles mixed with bean oil. That's a smell that you will never forget.

redondoaveb · 08-13-2021, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

You guys don't know what real gas smells like. Back before the 80's. You could get 98 octane from the local gas station pump. And every car didn't have cats on it. Every heavy truck rolled coal. 2 stroke motorcycles mixed with bean oil. That's a smell that you will never forget.

I wish cars burned the castor oil. Loved the smell of Klotz

Spooler · 08-13-2021, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

You guys don't know what real gas smells like. Back before the 80's. You could get 98 octane from the local gas station pump. And every car didn't have cats on it. Every heavy truck rolled coal. 2 stroke motorcycles mixed with bean oil. That's a smell that you will never forget.

Nothing better than the smell of race gas. Ethanol stinks like wet socks. Nasty smelling.

jchammond · 08-14-2021, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Nothing better than the smell of race gas. Ethanol stinks like wet socks. Nasty smelling.

Smells like mash whiskey

JARblue · 08-13-2021, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

2 stroke motorcycles mixed with bean oil. That's a smell that you will never forget.

Something like this?

abm89 · 08-13-2021, 12:54 PM

My HFC + motodyne combo is honestly perfect. It's hardly loud when driving normally, but it will make noises when i get on the loud pedal. Combined with running E85, hardly any smell.

06-03-2021, 12:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,336 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30526	Just because you don't live in an inspection state doesn't mean you can remove the cats. In Florida you can receive a $2000 fine for doing so! FL 4Motion likes this. __________________ Toys Not Tots

08-12-2021, 03:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
SteveVQ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 221 Drives: '23 Camaro 1SS 6MT Rep Power: 52839	Well FL has no testing sites and no emission requirements for registration....I'm going to do whatever the fuq I want to my car until that changes. Cops don't care at all down here from what I've seen. Never been pulled over and I've had cops sit behind me for like 5 minutes in traffic and I know they could smell my car....because all the prius drivers give me dirty looks. The FED is corrupt as all hell anyway from top to bottom, I don't give a shiz about their mandates or Orwellian 1984 rules. "Rules for thee, but not for me"...pfft shove it. __________________ '23 Camaro 1SS 6MT '19 Camaro 1SS 6MT (Totaled by Red Light Runner) '13 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT 328whp (Sold) Last edited by SteveVQ; 08-12-2021 at 03:10 PM.

08-13-2021, 05:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,408 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	Those who sell or install devices to defeat emission controls can be fined over $4,800 per defeat device, and dealers can be fined over $48,000 per tampered vehicle. In 2019 one diesel performance shop was fined over a million dollars. Though its very rare that anyone actually gets fined ever, a disgruntled costumer can make threats and scare a shop to just stop doing it for awhile. FL 4Motion likes this. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

08-13-2021, 12:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	Unless referring to a racing application, no one should be arguing there is a need to remove the cats. Of course there's no need. There are pros and cons to removing them. Each person's end goal and level of risk aversion is going to determine whether removing the cats is the right decision for them. Personally, I think test pipes are too loud for certain types of street driving. But I like the smell of gas, so I chose to live with the noise. 2011 Nismo#91, ZontheRocks, redondoaveb and 1 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

08-13-2021, 06:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,353 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	You guys don't know what real gas smells like. Back before the 80's. You could get 98 octane from the local gas station pump. And every car didn't have cats on it. Every heavy truck rolled coal. 2 stroke motorcycles mixed with bean oil. That's a smell that you will never forget. JARblue, old guy, ZontheRocks and 1 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

08-13-2021, 12:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64764	My HFC + motodyne combo is honestly perfect. It's hardly loud when driving normally, but it will make noises when i get on the loud pedal. Combined with running E85, hardly any smell. FL 4Motion, Spooler, ZontheRocks and 1 others like this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

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