Remote Tuning
 

Having trouble finding a good local tuner here in SA, Australia who has experience and willing to take on the TT 370Z, basically little to none exist here. So starting to consider remote tuning.

Who here has had a remote dyno tune on their boosted 370Z?

Please let me know the details,

1. Where and who is the tuner
2. Results
3. Did you need to retune or have any issues withit afterwards?

Seb @ Specialty Z

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Yep! What Jar said...

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I know Seb does it. But wanted peoples experience on remote dyno tuning. Or should I really try and find a local dyno tuner?

I can't speak on TT setups, or whether or not Seb would do a remote tune on such.

But I do recommend at least inquiring. I found he puts ethics over business. Even the more local shop I go to knows him, and the respect is mutual that I get servicing/installs at their place while Seb updates my tune.

Give Seb a call he will give you solid advice regardless of what you decide. He can remote tune boosted cars as well. You may need a base tune to give him something to start with.

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You back on the road?

Yep spoke to Seb today on the phone, he sounds like a top bloke! U guys are bloody lucky to have him over there for this platform lol we don't have any seb down here, we have alot who think they are like him but no true seb lol.

I think he only does the e-mail road tunes, I don't think he does the dyno remote because of the huge time difference between here and there.

Is a road tune and logging via seb still the best route?
Or should I try find another Z master like SOHO, Admin or Dynosty who might do an actual Dyno remote tune?

Seb is popular here in the forum. He is just a couple of miles from where I work. Drop off in the AM and pick in the PM kind of deal. I go to his shop as well and recommend him. He is more conservative and really look at a nice balance between power and reliability. If you want an alternative call Forged Performance in Marietta, GA. I heard that they are a little more aggressive and eek out more.

1. Eugene, located in Northern California -- Moreover Concord, CA.
His credentials? - Master ECUTek Tuner
- Masters' in Computer Science
- Works for a very well known stars, planets, rockets, cool stuff company! (If you don't know what that is by now...then O_O)

2. He is all about 100%+ driveability results. He will make sure your car runs better than any other tuned car out there, using algorithms and data-mining to achieve such results. How many other tuners do this...? None that I know? xD

3. Retune? Pfft. The only time you really need to retune with him is if you add something to the car yourself that requires retuning or if you forgot to tell him you had something in the car that is important enough for a retune.

Bottom line...
I really believe you would get what you pay for from Eugene.

Contact him.
He is "ByTheBay" forum user on here.
He also can be contacted at "Calibrations@infiniticare.com"

Uh...It's actually "ByThaBay" ... you spelled his name wrong.

And yes, I can vouch for Eugene.
He is going to tune my car, once it is finished at least.

For those of you following my 700 rwhp build thread --> I am having this same tuner tune my car.

I will definitely post results assuming people can read the logs correctly lol.
No, I won't be DYNO'ing it, because the car either IS or ISN'T going to run very well or not well.

Although I do need to get me a GoPro or something for videos!!!

Anyways, I say give him a try...otherwise you can try what other people recommend. (Seb, Jon Parham, Moncef, etc)
There's honestly many choices, so good luck to whoever tunes your at the end of the day!

Let us all know how it goes!

I might just go seb with the remote road tuning. What you guys rekon?

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None of yous said anything about Hal from Dynosty, I heard he is pretty good?

Hal is also an excellent and extremely knowledgeable tuner. I have not heard much (good or bad) about Hal's remote tuning. What puts Seb at the top of the list for remote tuning is his response time.

Ahh ok. Oh another thing is, since I planned on using e85,
Eugene said it might not be a good idea for a remote tune because the ethanol knock is different and comes on faster,

but Hal said to me fuel does not matter for remote tuning.

But I like the sound of Eugene, he sounds extremly knowledgeable.

Don't make this any more difficult than it needs to be. Seb is get props through out North America for a reason. Various shops from Canada to the East Coast of the US because he has mad skill. Hal at Dynasty is a solid choice. I would go with Seb just because I am bias...he has been tuning and working on my car for over five years. I have the first production Fast Intentions twin turbo kit installed 4.5 years ago and Seb did the install and I can't tell you how many tunes along the way. I have driven my car harder than most will boosted or not and after 30K miles boosted she runs as strong or stronger than she did when Seb and I started this journey. Just so you know I am not sponsored by Specialty Z or anyone for that matter but support him because of his work and more because we have become close friends.

Good luck and welcome to the boosted family. You won't be able to quit grinning once you get your ride dialed in.

Not sponsored but you get special parking Bob.

Yes, I do! I on the friends and family plan. LOL

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Isn't this something you should have figured out before you started buying stuff?

I know Seb is well known around here and there's no doubt you'd probably be happy with his tune.

Because of that, I would say try Eugene first -- the person with a Masters' in Computer Science, and who also works for one of the top American Aerospace engineering companies.

Think about it. Your ECU is a computer, wouldn't you want to try someone that has a masters' in computer science to tune your car / work on that part of it?

If anything, I would trust pretty much anyone with a masters' or higher in Computer Science engineering who also is deemed a Master ECUTek Tuner, and works for a top notch engineering company.

That's just my .02 cents though.

And if you don't like his tune, then write a review about it and let people know why you don't like it. That goes for anyone you get a tune from though, that way others can know about your experience with that person.

And then just go straight to Seb who you know can be trusted by various recommendations on here by various people!

I believe Sebz tune is $200 after all the gear is purchased, so it isn't much to be honest.

Give "ByThaBay" a call / text him.

He has very fast response times, as others have said; one of the reasons why Seb is very good is because his response times is very fast.
Well, so is ByThaBay's response time.

Text him, Email him, Facebook him, and he will also respond very quickly.

Good luck!

Go with Seb. It's great to have a degree in something but the school of hard knocks is very hard to beat. Seb learned from Greg from what I hear and he is the best 300zxtt tuner who has been doing this for a long long time. The experience coming out of the Specialty Z shop is amazing and it shows in their work. The customer service is also top notch. I am not sure about anyone else.

On a side note: I wonder how many 370z's Seb has tuned? NA, Supercharged, Turbo's, Ecuteck, UpRev, etc? I wonder if he keeps count.

Yes I did have it figured out, but if u want to know my story. The chosen tuner who was suppose to do this was local to me, when he recieved my car after the building part was complete, he has looked at the ECU and said wow, lots of work and basically has to figure everything out on his own because there is no other support for this platform down here.

So I told him I will just get a remote tune from one of the beastly Master tuners abroad.

And yes I do favor and have absolute faith in Seb todo this job aswell as others on here. But the best I will be able to get from him is a road tune, data logging etc. There won't be any real time dyno remote tune from him because of the huge time difference between us.

I am guessing there is stil no real harm in having the road tune from him for my target of 500whp?

On the other hand, Eugene would be more likely able to give me a real time remote dyno tune I think, because our communication has been through all times of the day with each other when the workshops over here are open.

Yay. So glad you decided to reach out to Eugene!!!
He won't let you down. Thats for sure. And if he does, tell us about it. But if he makes you happy, tell us about that!

The thing I love about Eugene is that he won't leave details out. He wants you to make sure you understand what is going into your tune. He will educate you on what is going into YOUR car, and he will tell you things like it is -- both good and bad to the best of his knowledge.

He doesn't know every answer but, he is one of the most open book and transparent, knowledgeable tuners I know of so far.

If there is something wrong or if he feels something won't go right, he will tell you straight up.

And his communication is amazing for the people he works with. As you already experienced.
Seb is also amazing too when it comes to communication.

Let us know how it turns out with Eugene after all is said and done

Yep exactly, the way eugene explains everything is great, but also a bit too technical for me lol nevertheless I feel like I can trust him. But I don't think he is too keen on doing the whole remote tune for me by the sounds of it, I think he will only setup a good base tune for my local tuner for him to take over and complete the tuning, I think thats how he has it planned out for me. But he did say he can take over and help my tuner to make the adjustments etc.

So I am tossing up between that, or just getting a whole remote tune from seb via e-mail, data logging etc.

He probably has his reasons for doing so.
Its difficult for him to do his best when he cannot physically see your car and drive it for revisions and such.
But yes, he can definitely be trusted.

True as it may be -- he is not a well known tuner for the 370z and G37s, but I strongly believe once he gets the experience in combination with his current top notch knowledge about ECU systems and software programming, code writing in general, he is able to become one of the best known tuners in America.

Thats my thoughts!

Have you made a decision yet?


Ps: just because i can code java doesn't mean i can tune cars - which has a lot more physics knowledge involved. But surely the skills which you need for programming (esp professionally for large companies with complex systems) help you to analyze and solve complex situations.

Hi yes I have made a decision. I have gone with Sebs E-tune. I appreciate the help Eugene offered me, but I felt like he was doing it out of charity for me which is great but I wanted a full service service to get my car going. That is why I chose Sebastian, but I have no doubt Eugene could have been just as good option if only I had asked him for a full service.

Anyways, I have the base tune loaded from Seb and it ran fairly smoothly for my 1hr drive home with it. Temps and AFR seemed good. Will start doing some data-logging in the next few days for it.

I am excited!

I am currently working with Seb as well. Just waiting for a cable to come in and hopefully get a base tune flashed. I have the Stillen S.C. on a 350z HR, so I'm using UpRev.

Why did you not go with Ecutek? They support 350Z don't they?

nope

Unfortunately there is no support for the HR models with ecutek.

I agree. I can't tune and I'm an embedded and mobile app SW engineer. I picked up a couple EFI books to get more familiar with the fuel injected dynamics. The basic physics part is OK. I believe its understanding the platform and what happens with ignition timing when specific events occur... in closed/open loop and how the o2's/MAFs/MAP are used in conjunction.

Other than that... set and press the "Interpolate" button and watch light start bending at WOT :driving:

Speaking of WOT, I am to that part in the remote tuning process for seb lol

The fun stuff begins, but before I do I have to get my wheels aligned/camber adjusted.

So far, sebs tunes have been nothing short of amazing. So glad I listened to evryone and went with him :)

Hmm not so good at the moment.

Seb looked at my first WOT pull and said it is running too lean under boost for the amount of fuel he has added to the tune. I am going to take the car back to the workshop and have the fuel system, pump looked over. :(

What injectors/pump/fuel system are you running?

What are the symptoms aside from just being lean?

Cjm s1.e fuel system
340lph pump
Id1050x

The idle and cruise feel fine and the logs show no issues, but as soon as i tried WOT 2nd and 3rd gear, it just hesitated the whole way and it felt like there was no power. I knew something was not rite straight away and seb looked at the logs and told me what to look for.

You literally have the same fuel setup as I do except for I went S1-SE (new fuel rails, I think) haha. Highest injector duty I get to is almost 60 at the moment, nowhere near max.

Did you get the larger wires kit for the fuel pump? There is a known issue where the small stock wiring has too large of a voltage drop from the battery to the pump due to being so small, causing issues with the pump. I think I got the kit from AEM or AMS, I can't remember right now, I'm sorry. It's relatively easy to do though and costs ~$100.

That would be my guess if there was something wrong in the system. Does this track with what you're looking for?

I bought the Fuel pump relay kit from CJM and have it installed already, is that the same thing you are talking about?

Did you install the CJM fuel system yourself, and how long did it take you?

I have a feeling there might be a fuel leak somewhere? When I look at my Ecutek logs for my WOT attempt, it says injector duty bank 1 is max @ 48%.

Both AFR banks are almost identical aswell as both MAF sensor readings.

There its strange because the AFR avg stays around 14.7 before I hit the accel pedal at cruise speeds but as soon as I try WOT the AFR avg raises, goes lean until I take my foot of the pedal again it goes back to normal, around 14.7.

Perfect, really anything that gets bigger wires for the fuel pump is what you want!

I put in the system myself and it took maybe 4 hours between a buddy and me (not including the pump assembly modification). The biggest pain was getting the lines routed to the tank haha. Getting frustrated and taking breaks was at least an hour of that.

Smell around. You will definitely smell a fuel leak if you have one! Probably before you see it.

When you punch it, make sure that you go to the floor with the pedal. Sometimes partial throttle response can be iffy.

To me it sounds as though the engine is either getting more air than it thinks (tune should correct that) or its not getting as much fuel as it needs. If the pump is running, you have the wires it needs to run effectively, so you shouldn't have any issues since your injectors and pump are definitely big enough.

Maybe try watching fuel pressure as best you can while you rev the engine to see if you get pressure drop-off when you rev. You could also rig up a camera or something in the engine bay to watch fuel pressure as you drive.

I had a similar issue occur a few months ago after installing the 9lb pulley and a tranny and power steering cooler. The car ran perfect for a week and suddenly starting running lean across the board. Try talking to Seb about going full speed density. It more complicated from a tuning standpoint, but it cleared up my lean issue completely and now we are working on ironing out the rest of my tune.

I did almost every test in the book to verify all the systems on my car are in good working order.