My most expensive paper weight ever

Kastley85891 · 12-24-2009, 03:30 PM

So, after much consideration and thought I decided to go with a COBB AP for my engine management needs, originally I was going to buy from the guys at AAM, they were very very helpfull and always got back to me etc, plus cut a great deal, I could not purchase from them as my car fund is based of a UK CC, i.e. non USA based.
So I sourced my AP directly from COBB , now I realizse that the tables are limited but I wanted a head start on learning my vehicles ECU control.

So I thought I could at least get my WBo2 set up and start to adjust the vehicle to fine tune my own 'base map', then as the defs are released which enable more control variables I can just update firmware and tuning software accordingly, easy enough right?

Well, my AP would not install... no biggie, assumed a dongle or firmware issue, up loaded all the latests revs, still no good, contacted COBB (very helpfull) did some analitical stuff over the phone....
Long story short, my ecu is one of the 'unseen' before coded roms, and hence needs adding to the mix in terms of development, time line,,,,,,, FEB 10at the earliest.

So, I have a nice 600+ dollar paper weight on mydesk and am no closer to the engine managment I wanted.

NB - this is not a slate at COBB or the AP - I do like the products and have a lot of experience with COBB and there outlets, tuners, how ever I am surprised I can purchase a unit that will not function at all on the vehicle it was sold for........

Before it gets asked, yes I did consider UPREV but wanted an easy install / de install option and I am already used to COBB based software, I have used license based ECU reflashed previously and taking them off can suck.

Just a pre warning dudes.....
Happy Holidays

FuszNissan · 12-24-2009, 03:42 PM

That sucks. I hope they get it figured out before Feb.

Kastley85891 · 12-24-2009, 03:47 PM

^ me to ;-)
Apparently, this is likely to happen until all rom id's have been accounted for, I pulled my stock ROM and sent it off so they can add it to the 'accepted' data base etc, its very unlikely they will send me an individual patch, I will have to wait until a full firmware version release.

JoeGr · 12-31-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kastley85891

^ me to ;-)
Apparently, this is likely to happen until all rom id's have been accounted for, I pulled my stock ROM and sent it off so they can add it to the 'accepted' data base etc, its very unlikely they will send me an individual patch, I will have to wait until a full firmware version release.

As soon as I get back to the office I'll add the support for your rom and two others that I've received while I've been on vacation.

Joe

Kastley85891 · 12-31-2009, 11:31 PM

Joe - appreaite the assistance, please let me know when I am good to go with the update - in the mean time I have written my revised map and its waiting to flash...

One_Quick_Z · 01-01-2010, 12:09 AM

I had a Horrible Experience with Cobb on my 06 350Z I had I will never use them again

None of the maps would work on the car and none of the updates took effect and had horrible customer service

DAN

kdo2milger · 01-01-2010, 02:48 AM

Kastley! whats up bud!

hold out on the cobb man they are cracking the timing issue now...and since you already sent off your ecu rom image its only a matter of time before they get it back to you

look at it in a bigger picture...your helping out everyone else by doing it so its not a total loss and you and everyone else will reap the rewards for your patients!

nogoodname · 01-01-2010, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

Kastley! whats up bud!

hold out on the cobb man they are cracking the timing issue now...and since you already sent off your ecu rom image its only a matter of time before they get it back to you

look at it in a bigger picture...your helping out everyone else by doing it so its not a total loss and you and everyone else will reap the rewards for your patients!

Kdo is right, hang in there... will be worth it

same thing happen with the G and now it's the Z's turn

Kastley85891 · 01-01-2010, 10:22 AM

KDO - Hey Man - yeah, I am waiting, I have some maps editied up and my WB is going in (When my CB eventually shows up), I am happy with COBB's response but was a little annoyed at initial problem, that being said they have been very helpful and informative about the 370Z workings.
I am waiting patiently ;-)
Nogoodname - yeah - Its just teething issues for sure

GTRFAN · 01-01-2010, 06:51 PM

Kastley85891 - Good luck with the project, keep us updated.

PS. Like your avatar!

Kastley85891 · 01-04-2010, 08:03 PM

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drisko · 01-05-2010, 12:13 AM

I think we should start taking bets on when the "official" COBB AP will be released for the 370Z. My bet is Spring 2014.

(sorry but I'm starting to get a little pissed).

Valentino · 01-05-2010, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drisko

I think we should start taking bets on when the "official" COBB AP will be released for the 370Z. My bet is Spring 2014.

(sorry but I'm starting to get a little pissed).

+1

Kastley85891 · 01-07-2010, 12:28 PM

Latest - I got a Firmware beta download, but had an install issue still, contacted the support guys, they have re written and compiled a new Beta firmware, hopefully this evening I hsould have it.
COBB have remained V helpful through out, if it were not for xmas NY, I feel that I would be running it already.
I have had plenty of time to get to grips with the 'limited' parameters of the ROM, my AP manager has three ptm's ready for trial.
My CB is out for delivery today so will be installed tonight, the final parts for my home made intake will be here to day also so would be nice to get this thing tuned and dyno'd.
Will update accordingly

kdo2milger · 01-07-2010, 02:03 PM

nice

cant wait to here how the beta goes

12-24-2009, 03:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	My most expensive paper weight ever So, after much consideration and thought I decided to go with a COBB AP for my engine management needs, originally I was going to buy from the guys at AAM, they were very very helpfull and always got back to me etc, plus cut a great deal, I could not purchase from them as my car fund is based of a UK CC, i.e. non USA based. So I sourced my AP directly from COBB , now I realizse that the tables are limited but I wanted a head start on learning my vehicles ECU control. So I thought I could at least get my WBo2 set up and start to adjust the vehicle to fine tune my own 'base map', then as the defs are released which enable more control variables I can just update firmware and tuning software accordingly, easy enough right? Well, my AP would not install... no biggie, assumed a dongle or firmware issue, up loaded all the latests revs, still no good, contacted COBB (very helpfull) did some analitical stuff over the phone.... Long story short, my ecu is one of the 'unseen' before coded roms, and hence needs adding to the mix in terms of development, time line,,,,,,, FEB 10at the earliest. So, I have a nice 600+ dollar paper weight on mydesk and am no closer to the engine managment I wanted. NB - this is not a slate at COBB or the AP - I do like the products and have a lot of experience with COBB and there outlets, tuners, how ever I am surprised I can purchase a unit that will not function at all on the vehicle it was sold for........ Before it gets asked, yes I did consider UPREV but wanted an easy install / de install option and I am already used to COBB based software, I have used license based ECU reflashed previously and taking them off can suck. Just a pre warning dudes..... Happy Holidays __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP Last edited by Kastley85891; 12-24-2009 at 03:48 PM.

12-24-2009, 03:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	That sucks. I hope they get it figured out before Feb. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

12-24-2009, 03:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	^ me to ;-) Apparently, this is likely to happen until all rom id's have been accounted for, I pulled my stock ROM and sent it off so they can add it to the 'accepted' data base etc, its very unlikely they will send me an individual patch, I will have to wait until a full firmware version release. __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

12-31-2009, 11:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Joe - appreaite the assistance, please let me know when I am good to go with the update - in the mean time I have written my revised map and its waiting to flash... __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

01-01-2010, 12:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 219	I had a Horrible Experience with Cobb on my 06 350Z I had I will never use them again None of the maps would work on the car and none of the updates took effect and had horrible customer service DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

01-01-2010, 02:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	Kastley! whats up bud! hold out on the cobb man they are cracking the timing issue now...and since you already sent off your ecu rom image its only a matter of time before they get it back to you look at it in a bigger picture...your helping out everyone else by doing it so its not a total loss and you and everyone else will reap the rewards for your patients! __________________ Project *NISMO*

01-01-2010, 10:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	KDO - Hey Man - yeah, I am waiting, I have some maps editied up and my WB is going in (When my CB eventually shows up), I am happy with COBB's response but was a little annoyed at initial problem, that being said they have been very helpful and informative about the 370Z workings. I am waiting patiently ;-) Nogoodname - yeah - Its just teething issues for sure __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

01-01-2010, 06:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
GTRFAN Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 586 Drives: 370z Titanium 6MT Rep Power: 17	Kastley85891 - Good luck with the project, keep us updated. PS. Like your avatar! __________________ My Zed

01-04-2010, 08:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	left blank __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP Last edited by Kastley85891; 01-04-2010 at 08:12 PM.

01-05-2010, 12:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
drisko Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Age: 43 Posts: 160 Drives: 09 370Z PW Tour S 6M Rep Power: 16	I think we should start taking bets on when the "official" COBB AP will be released for the 370Z. My bet is Spring 2014. (sorry but I'm starting to get a little pissed).

01-07-2010, 12:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Latest - I got a Firmware beta download, but had an install issue still, contacted the support guys, they have re written and compiled a new Beta firmware, hopefully this evening I hsould have it. COBB have remained V helpful through out, if it were not for xmas NY, I feel that I would be running it already. I have had plenty of time to get to grips with the 'limited' parameters of the ROM, my AP manager has three ptm's ready for trial. My CB is out for delivery today so will be installed tonight, the final parts for my home made intake will be here to day also so would be nice to get this thing tuned and dyno'd. Will update accordingly __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

01-07-2010, 02:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	nice cant wait to here how the beta goes __________________ Project *NISMO*

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