HKS EVC VI boost controller any good?

bimbimbop · 11-04-2017, 10:49 AM

hey I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the HKS EVC VI boost controller would be beneficial for my aam tt setup? my tuner said it would be better to have but I'm hearing that it isn't really needed with my ecutek tune..is this something that I should invest in?

Cars_go_vroom · 11-07-2017, 05:46 AM

I have the older one and I like it. Easy to adjust the boost on the fly.

Btw how is the car scene in Korea? I didn't think Korea had a car scene, especially with Japanese cars?

Hotrodz · 11-07-2017, 08:12 AM

I have a Blitz boost controller and I recently got a re-tune and we decided to run the boost through EcuTek and just use the boost controller as a boost gauge. My tuner is Sebastian at SpecialtyZ an he said by using EcuTek he could dial the car and the boost in better. But he is a guru with EcuTek your tuner may not be a comfortable and knowledgeable as Seb is with EcuTek.

Chuck33079 · 11-07-2017, 08:27 AM

From all the reading I've done, apparently the HKS unit does a really good job, but is a major pain in the *** to install and set up.

Jayhovah · 11-07-2017, 11:31 AM

Assuming the Ecutek boost control is up to snuff, I would go with it... I would assume better integration with multiple maps, etc. (I am speculating here as I do not have Ecutek boost control, but plan to go with it when I upgrade for E85).

Chuck33079 · 11-07-2017, 11:34 AM

The one knock I've heard on using Ecutek for boost control was that it didn't respond as quickly as an actual boost controller. I think it was VitViper that brought it up.

Jayhovah · 11-07-2017, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The one knock I've heard on using Ecutek for boost control was that it didn't respond as quickly as an actual boost controller. I think it was VitViper that brought it up.

If true that is a bummer... but since they seem to continue updating the software it is something that could be improved (or possibly already has?).

I think for some people who plan on setting-and-forgetting a certain boost level and just want maximum spool - a cheap manual boost controller is a great option that often goes overlooked. They can be had for <$20 and are close to idiot proof for installation. I would go with this option (actually have one sitting on the shelf) but I didn't have the fuel to support using it when I did my original tune, and when I upgrade I want tuned boost maps individually set by gear. Hopefully Ecutek supports this.

Hotrodz · 11-07-2017, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The one knock I've heard on using Ecutek for boost control was that it didn't respond as quickly as an actual boost controller. I think it was VitViper that brought it up.

The only difference that I have noticed is that the power comes on more linear with the EcuTek. It doesn't seem to kick you in the *** so much when you flat foot the pedal. I don't think there is enough difference to make a difference and it saves you a few greenbacks as well.

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Chuck33079 · 11-07-2017, 11:55 AM

That's what I did. Cheapo TurboXS MBC. I've got a Greddy EBC in a box on the shelf, but I've had no complaints so far. I just want more.

Jayhovah · 11-07-2017, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That's what I did. Cheapo TurboXS MBC. I've got a Greddy EBC in a box on the shelf, but I've had no complaints so far. I just want more.

Sometimes I think if all of us boosted guys on here pooled their shelf-parts, we'd be able to do a complete build.

Chuck33079 · 11-07-2017, 12:07 PM

I'm there already minus a fuel system

Hotrodz · 11-07-2017, 12:35 PM

I have a FI Fast 500 fuel return system and a their 34 row oil cooler.

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Juan@Fontana · 11-07-2017, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The one knock I've heard on using Ecutek for boost control was that it didn't respond as quickly as an actual boost controller. I think it was VitViper that brought it up.

wrong,

ECUTek / ECU based boost control in my experience from the user stand point has always been superior to a third party / separate control unit. as long as your tuner knows what he is doing the ECUTEK boost control function will be superior than the HKS unit.

Chuck33079 · 11-07-2017, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan@Fontana

wrong,

ECUTek / ECU based boost control in my experience from the user stand point has always been superior to a third party / separate control unit. as long as your tuner knows what he is doing the ECUTEK boost control function will be superior than the HKS unit.

He was specifically discussing the refresh rate and it being too low for his tastes when compared to other options.

Zthirty4NISMO · 11-07-2017, 03:29 PM

To Chuck's point, I also had read of this (see below). The opinion is that the frequency signal from the solenoid valve apparently isn't as strong as it could be to accurately produce a reasonable wastegate reaction time so it would be delayed compared to an EBC. Interestingly enough, I have been talking with Tony @ FI as of late and just brought this up as a talking point a few days ago with him since I had been interested in the integrated boost control from ECUTek. He basically shot the idea down and proceeded to tell me that at the SEMA show, Sebastian at SZ learned that ECUTek has figured out their software to the point where the Z should be able to utilize this feature as the GTR is able to (ECU differences) and he feels comfortable moving forward with it.

Until this, Tony said they have been using 4 maps as hjo1078 says below. 91 or 93 map, E10-E30, E30-E50, and E50+ so to a point you still have to monitor what tune you are running based on fuel in the tank. Now, it sounds like this won't be necessary with the new software that ECUTek has. You could still do the 4 maps if you wanted so you're not always running high boost I suppose.

Just the messenger here and know enough to be dangerous on this so don't shoot me!

Hopefully we can get further info on this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw

Ecutek to control boost???? How ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z&I

Can't tell you exactly how, but the tuner has said he can do it through EcuTek and he has done it before.
He's done a ton of GTR's and [well, almost] a ton of Z's.

I contacted EcuTek support to find out just how and they pretty much told me to contact the tuner...so I got off that merry-go-round.
Evidently EcuTek can be utilized to monitor boost and electronically control the wastegate.
On the down side - I might be giving up the flexibility of selecting my own boost settings though - don't know how much of a good or bad thing that is.
Don't plan on racing it until the spring - so I've got a little time to get to know the car again.

I should say here that the car isn't being done by FI ...
The car had already transported to another shop before FI released their TT kit WR video.
As Agent 86 Maxwell Smart would have said --- " Missed it by --- That Much ---

"

Just couldn't bring myself around to extricating the car from another shop [once again] to ride the rails across the county.

Don't want to get too far off topic here ... but will find out more when the tuner gets back from SEMA.

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Originally Posted by hjo1078

Yeah hes right, i dont run an electronic boost controller anymore. Its all done through my tune. I have four different map settings. Eco, eco sport, race, and killer. Well thats what i named them atleast. I was told by visconti that i dont even need my boost controller anymore so i took it out. It is utilizing the solenoid from my boost controller still. I never really messed with my boost controller anyways and infact i dont even think i knew how to use it lol.

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Originally Posted by VitViper

We use the CPC to control a solenoid to regulate boost pressure on this car and many other platforms (even using stock ECU solutions like ECUTek).

Yes this works on the 370Z. The only downside right now is it's a VERY slow circuit -- only 11hz. For good response you want to be around 24-32hz on the typical solenoid.

11-04-2017, 10:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
bimbimbop Base Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Seoul Posts: 140 Drives: 12 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 8	HKS EVC VI boost controller any good? hey I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the HKS EVC VI boost controller would be beneficial for my aam tt setup? my tuner said it would be better to have but I'm hearing that it isn't really needed with my ecutek tune..is this something that I should invest in? __________________ 2012 Nismo AAM TT, CJM S1.SE Fuel System, AAM 3" True Dual Exhaust, CC 6 Puck Clutch/flywheel, Z1 engine/transmission mounts, Sparta Big Brake, ECUtek Tune, SPC Cambers, Whiteline Swaybar, KW V3 coilovers, Zspeed CMAK kit 542Whp 450TQ

11-07-2017, 08:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I have a Blitz boost controller and I recently got a re-tune and we decided to run the boost through EcuTek and just use the boost controller as a boost gauge. My tuner is Sebastian at SpecialtyZ an he said by using EcuTek he could dial the car and the boost in better. But he is a guru with EcuTek your tuner may not be a comfortable and knowledgeable as Seb is with EcuTek. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

11-07-2017, 08:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	From all the reading I've done, apparently the HKS unit does a really good job, but is a major pain in the *** to install and set up. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-07-2017, 11:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	The one knock I've heard on using Ecutek for boost control was that it didn't respond as quickly as an actual boost controller. I think it was VitViper that brought it up. Jayhovah likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-07-2017, 11:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	That's what I did. Cheapo TurboXS MBC. I've got a Greddy EBC in a box on the shelf, but I've had no complaints so far. I just want more. Jayhovah likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-07-2017, 05:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cars_go_vroom Base Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: America Posts: 112 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 8	I have the older one and I like it. Easy to adjust the boost on the fly. Btw how is the car scene in Korea? I didn't think Korea had a car scene, especially with Japanese cars?

11-07-2017, 12:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I'm there already minus a fuel system __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-07-2017, 12:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I have a FI Fast 500 fuel return system and a their 34 row oil cooler. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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