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LOL.370z 07-09-2017 01:35 AM

Low dyno numbers, would like some opinions
 
Hi everyone I recently got my 370 uprev tuned and was quite dissapointed at the numbers(will post dyno sheet in a bit). My 370 is N/A with Stillen catback exhaust, Stillen gen3 cai, and Motordyne art pipes. With these mods I expected to definitely be over the 300 whp mark. But with the tune I ended up at 280 whp, and before the tune it was only at 264. I cant imagine why the number would be so low. Tuning was done on a dynapack dyno.

SS_Firehawk 07-09-2017 02:22 AM

Who did your tune and what software?

LOL.370z 07-09-2017 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3672738)
Who did your tune and what software?

Jtune performance was the shop that tuned my car and they used the uprev software to tune it. Pretty sure it wasnt the shop though considering I did get 14 whp from the tune.

SS_Firehawk 07-09-2017 08:04 AM

What was your stock baseline?

Elmo370z 07-09-2017 08:06 AM

Probably a mustang dyno

SS_Firehawk 07-09-2017 08:25 AM

It was a dynapack which reads high, or low, and everything in between.

LOL.370z 07-09-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3672761)
What was your stock baseline?

I didnt do a stock baseline without any mods but the baseline before the tune was 267.2 and after. it was 281.4 whp

LOL.370z 07-09-2017 08:34 AM

Im having trouble uploading a picture of the dyno sheet.

SS_Firehawk 07-09-2017 08:35 AM

Test it on a dynojet. Those dynos are consistent

LOL.370z 07-09-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3672771)
Test it on a dynojet. Those dynos are consistent

Ill ave to find one, but with what i currently have on the car my number should definetly not be this low right ?

OhioYJ 07-09-2017 08:38 AM

16 hp from a tune seems pretty good whats the problem? Go somewhere else and have a dyno run done if you really care about having a sheet with a bigger number on it. Every single dyno will read differently. Some read lower or higher than others. Some unscrupulous shop owners have even been known to change correction factors so their dynos read higher so more people will come their (help inflate their egos I guess). The most important thing is you got an apples to apples comparison before and after on the same dyno.

If you are just worried about if being something wrong with the car (which I doubt), you'll have to get it dynoed elsewhere.

LOL.370z 07-09-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioYJ (Post 3672774)
16 hp from a tune seems pretty good whats the problem? Go somewhere else and have a dyno run done if you really care about having a sheet with a bigger number on it. Every single dyno will read differently. Some read lower or higher than others. Some unscrupulous shop owners have even been known to change correction factors so their dynos read higher so more people will come their (help inflate their egos I guess). The most important thing is you got an apples to apples comparison before and after on the same dyno.

If you are just worried about if being something wrong with the car (which I doubt), you'll have to get it dynoed elsewhere.

To be honest that would be my biggest concern is that some part of my car isnt functioning properly and that is causing the low numbers.

OhioYJ 07-09-2017 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LOL.370z (Post 3672775)
To be honest that would be my biggest concern is that some part of my car isnt functioning properly and that is causing the low numbers.

Your tuner has most likely done other 370s right? Ask him if those numbers are typical? He'll know if thats normal for his dyno or not. We unfortunately wont.

LOL.370z 07-09-2017 09:13 AM

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heres the dyno sheet

echoshotz 07-09-2017 11:18 AM

That torque curve is pretty ugly, I'd agree with going to get another dynode elsewhere

jchammond 07-09-2017 11:27 AM

What did they tune your AFR to? And cat's replaced with test pipes yields about the most gains.
I know everyone can't run them; also Dyno numbers in 4th gear on an A/T will definitely read lower than 1:1 5th,,, the M/T cars have 1.27:1 4th gear to a 1.41ratio 4th in the A/T...so not as much loss on the M/T's.
Only thing is,some tuners won't tune 5th because of the 170+mph speeds.

jchammond 07-09-2017 11:41 AM

This is my numbers on a Dynojet w/ K&N drop-in's only.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4469c732d4.jpg
The torque % difference between the 2 gears was quite a bit...speed limiter kicked in @156


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LOL.370z 07-09-2017 12:27 PM

Ill definitely have to contact the tuner and see what he thinks about my numbers and if maybe they`re dyno just runs low numbers. might have to do a run or two on a dynojet if I am not satisfied.

jchammond 07-09-2017 12:44 PM

That's a local speed-shop that has a Dynojet & an educated operator...my AFR was rich@12.2'ish.
When I got tuned w/UpRev,it was set to 13:1 at wot


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Christian Sun 07-09-2017 01:58 PM

I'm on the same boat, I have pretty much same set up on my 15 nismo z now my biggest concern is if there is something goes wrong with my z. I made 299whp/265ft.lb on a dynapack and and one of my buddy got 336whp which also is pretty much same set up on a dynapack but different store. Since I finished tuning session the tuner no longer reply my email like and I already send email over three times. Now I have to drive almost 180km to find a shop which have dynojet. so I'm very looking forward that you get a good number in a different dyno machine that could pretty much fix my prob either.

jchammond 07-09-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Sun (Post 3672837)
I'm on the same boat, I have pretty much same set up on my 15 nismo z now my biggest concern is if there is something goes wrong with my z. I made 299whp/265ft.lb on a dynapack and and one of my buddy got 336whp which also is pretty much same set up on a dynapack but different store. Since I finished tuning session the tuner no longer reply my email like and I already send email over three times. Now I have to drive almost 180km to find a shop which have dynojet. so I'm very looking forward that you get a good number in a different dyno machine that could pretty much fix my prob either.

Your 15' Nismo is more than likely equipped with a 3.92:1 diff ratio.
Thus making it less effort on the engine to twist it up...Dyno numbers are lower on lower geared Diffs than taller gears.

jchammond 07-09-2017 02:09 PM

Unsure if it would be 37whp difference though.


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jchammond 07-09-2017 02:34 PM

it's very Attractive to have high Dyno HP #'s, but their primary function is to tune your vehicle,,,So many variables come into play with the magic # that tops the screen. As it calculates HP through torque,rpm's,time,etc...
Dyno's can be calibrated to throw large or small numbers-but using the same one to tune your car after mods will help you determine gains/losses better than switching to another Dyno.

ltullos 07-09-2017 05:13 PM

re: tune
 
FWIW, I think there's something wrong, particularly with the torque curve as there's no way it should be that peaky. Although I've never used them, my reference point for best tune is Seb at Specialty Z. I recall that they were getting around 310 RWHP Uprev tune on NA 370s with CAI and Catback. I don't remember their torque numbers. In any case, I was delighted when I got 307 HP and 233 Ft-Lbs on a Mustang dyno from my tuner (Keith at AWD Tuning in DFW).

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