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bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 08:13 AM

Are ECUtek and Uprev tunes reversible
 
Hola members. I'm thinking about investing in one of these 2 tuners. My question is, are these able to reflash the ecu back to stock calibrations after being flashed? I don't have too much experience with reflashes, just piggybacks like the aem fic. Also, has anyone had any issues reflashing back to stock in the event that they needed to have warranty work done at the dealer?? That's my major concern and deciding factor for these tuner softwares. Thanks in advance.

FPenvy 04-01-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449027)
Hola members. I'm thinking about investing in one of these 2 tuners. My question is, are these able to reflash the ecu back to stock calibrations after being flashed? I don't have too much experience with reflashes, just piggybacks like the aem fic. Also, has anyone had any issues reflashing back to stock in the event that they needed to have warranty work done at the dealer?? That's my major concern and deciding factor for these tuner softwares. Thanks in advance.

yes it is a button click on a laptop and it goes back to 100% stock.

bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3449033)
yes it is a button click on a laptop and it goes back to 100% stock.

Thanks for the reply bud. Do you know if there's any issues if any dealer warranty work needs to be done? Like will anything pop up showing that the ecu has been reflashed by an outside source?

FPenvy 04-01-2016 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449051)
Thanks for the reply bud. Do you know if there's any issues if any dealer warranty work needs to be done? Like will anything pop up showing that the ecu has been reflashed by an outside source?

not sure. I don't go to the dealership for work except when I did my steering lock recall and tranny fluid change since I don't have the proper tools for that.

however both times were after my tune with full exhaust, no cats, and intakes. nothing was said to me about it on the recall trip. the tranny fluid change was not warranty type work so nothing they really could have said then besides thank you for your money.

JARblue 04-01-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449051)
Do you know if there's any issues if any dealer warranty work needs to be done? Like will anything pop up showing that the ecu has been reflashed by an outside source?

If the dealer really wants to check, I'm pretty sure they can find out. But it's not something they encounter regularly, so I'm guessing most don't look for it or wouldn't catch it. But if you're looking to file a warranty claim on any part of the engine, I bet they do :twocents:

I've had a headliner replaced under warranty and they didn't say anything about my tune. I'm also in the beginning stages of transmission replacement under warranty and the dealer hasn't said anything yet.

FPenvy 04-01-2016 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3449065)
If the dealer really wants to check, I'm pretty sure they can find out. But it's not something they encounter regularly, so I'm guessing most don't look for it or wouldn't catch it. But if you're looking to file a warranty claim on any part of the engine, I bet they do :twocents:

I've had a headliner replaced under warranty and they didn't say anything about my tune. I'm also in the beginning stages of transmission replacement under warranty and the dealer hasn't said anything yet.

considering they want to charge $200 to hit a button to upload new nav software I'm sure its not worth their precious time to check for a tune file in the ecu.....

fuckin hate dealerships. :shakes head:

bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 08:58 AM

Very true. I know that they won't check for anything like that but if I have a sensor failure where they need to test monitors or run some sort of diagnostic, I wonder if that could cause a red flag. I still have a lot of warranty left and I'd rather not void it if at all possible.

FPenvy 04-01-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449090)
Very true. I know that they won't check for anything like that but if I have a sensor failure where they need to test monitors or run some sort of diagnostic, I wonder if that could cause a red flag. I still have a lot of warranty left and I'd rather not void it if at all possible.

technically they could cause a fuss about it. really depends on the dealer/mechanic.

bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3449107)
technically they could cause a fuss about it. really depends on the dealer/mechanic.

Very true. I see that you're still N/A with a tune. How would you rate your gains from just a tune alone? I've seen mixed numbers. Some are fairly substantial and some are only 10-15 hp which really isn't worth it imho

BC416 04-01-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449160)
Very true. I see that you're still N/A with a tune. How would you rate your gains from just a tune alone? I've seen mixed numbers. Some are fairly substantial and some are only 10-15 hp which really isn't worth it imho

From what I've read, the tune isn't really about peak numbers. People who have one will swear it was worth it for the improved throttle response alone.

bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3449190)
From what I've read, the tune isn't really about peak numbers. People who have one will swear it was worth it for the improved throttle response alone.

Definately understandable. It just doesn't seem that cost effective of a mod for the price for such a minimal gain. You know what I mean?

BC416 04-01-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449193)
Definately understandable. It just doesn't seem that cost effective of a mod for the price for such a minimal gain. You know what I mean?

Totally understand you. My 2 prior cars were both turbo so I know all about spending a few hundred bucks and getting a big bang for your buck with some minor mods. Truth is these cars are pretty maxed out from the factory. You are only going to do so much with a N/A 3.7L V6.

You also have to account for the other features an ECUtek tune would offer. Valet mode, launch control, multiple maps for different octanes. I plan on getting one eventually. Going to do tune and HFCs all at once.

LA370z 04-01-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3449071)
considering they want to charge $200 to hit a button to upload new nav software I'm sure its not worth their precious time to check for a tune file in the ecu.....

fuckin hate dealerships. :shakes head:

Jesus....... really? They charge that much to do that?

FPenvy 04-01-2016 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LA370z (Post 3449214)
Jesus....... really? They charge that much to do that?


$99 for the actual update and $99 for Nissan labor to press a fuckin button to load the file. Pretty messed up right? Wish I made $99 for 10 seconds of work.

bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3449212)
Totally understand you. My 2 prior cars were both turbo so I know all about spending a few hundred bucks and getting a big bang for your buck with some minor mods. Truth is these cars are pretty maxed out from the factory. You are only going to do so much with a N/A 3.7L V6.

You also have to account for the other features an ECUtek tune would offer. Valet mode, launch control, multiple maps for different octanes. I plan on getting one eventually. Going to do tune and HFCs all at once.

I"m definately considering it. I would love to go turbo again but the price tag is a bit insane right now. lol. Eventually it will happen.

BC416 04-01-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449334)
I"m definately considering it. I would love to go turbo again but the price tag is a bit insane right now. lol. Eventually it will happen.

I think most would like to go forced induction on the Z, just a very pricey endeavor. I meant my prior 2 cars were turbo from the factory, much easier to mod.

bLKchry370z 04-01-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3449357)
I think most would like to go forced induction on the Z, just a very pricey endeavor. I meant my prior 2 cars were turbo from the factory, much easier to mod.

LMAo!!! You're not kidding. I boosted my old scion tc for under $6k and that's using quality parts, and purchasing 2 turbos and 2 different setups

JARblue 04-01-2016 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449160)
Very true. I see that you're still N/A with a tune. How would you rate your gains from just a tune alone? I've seen mixed numbers. Some are fairly substantial and some are only 10-15 hp which really isn't worth it imho

People pay $1K+ for exhausts that only gain that 10-15 hp :twocents:

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3449190)
From what I've read, the tune isn't really about peak numbers. [B]People who have one will swear it was worth it for the improved throttle response alone.[B]

:iagree: the car just drives so much smoother and the throttle response improvement is totally worth it. If I had to do it again, an Ecutek tune would be my second mod after the RJM clutch pedal :tiphat:

mishuko 04-04-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bLKchry370z (Post 3449160)
Very true. I see that you're still N/A with a tune. How would you rate your gains from just a tune alone? I've seen mixed numbers. Some are fairly substantial and some are only 10-15 hp which really isn't worth it imho

as everyone else said it's not just about the gains.

I got about 10 WHP after an ECUTEK tune.

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3449604)
People pay $1K+ for exhausts that only gain that 10-15 hp :twocents:



:iagree: the car just drives so much smoother and the throttle response improvement is totally worth it. If I had to do it again, an Ecutek tune would be my second mod after the RJM clutch pedal :tiphat:

500 for gen 3's are best bang for the buck imho.

I almost want to get the RJM but I'm fine with the stock. for now with the helper removal.

personally speaking with intakes/exhaust and then the 2 days I got to drive with the tune... it's totally worth it. throttle response was quicker. cleaned up the ratio's (better for the long run) and makes a slightly more aggressive sound from before.

do not tune until you are done modding... if you're going to get FI in the next 1 year then wait. I'm in the boat of wanting to get some TT's but $$ and then the extra upkeep is not within my budget right now.


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