Is tuning a must?

Proposed · 02-05-2016, 06:40 PM

Hello, I have a quick question. I was debating on getting the CBE by Invidia, but my question is since I have CAI and HFC will I need a tune right away after the install or will it not hurt it to drive around without a tune for a while? I know air to fuel will be all off.

Wonka2581 · 02-05-2016, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Proposed

Hello, I have a quick question. I was debating on getting the CBE by Invidia, but my question is since I have CAI and HFC will I need a tune right away after the install or will it not hurt it to drive around without a tune for a while? I know air to fuel will be all off.

If you put 3 breather mods you will need a tune, you can have up to 2 breather mods and be fine.

Proposed · 02-05-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

If you put 3 breather mods you will need a tune, you can have up to 2 breather mods and be fine.

Yeah my question is would it really hurt the car to drive it around without a tune for a while?

SouthArk370Z · 02-05-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Proposed

Yeah my question is would it really hurt the car to drive it around without a tune for a while?

There are several threads on this topic, but, in a nutshell, you should be OK. Just don't be holding the pedal to the floor.

SS_Firehawk · 02-05-2016, 06:50 PM

It won't be too bad with HFC's. Best way to check is get a dyno and the AFR's read. If you're over just over 13, I wouldnt wait too long. Over 13.5, I wouldnt dare drive. If you're currently high 11's, low 12's, you should be okay with an exhaust upgrade. This is just my opinion, I'm no expert

EVOHUNTER · 02-05-2016, 06:57 PM

No, you don't need a tune.

But if you to optimize and gain good power, get a tune.

BOLIO 671 · 02-05-2016, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

No, you don't need a tune.

But if you to optimize and gain good power, get a tune.

When I ran 3 breathing mods I was running moderately lean.....but not too lean that it would hurt my engine. It's useless getting all these mods if ur not going to maximize them....that's something only a tune can achieve.

Proposed · 02-05-2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

When I ran 3 breathing mods I was running moderately lean.....but not too lean that it would hurt my engine. It's useless getting all these mods if ur not going to maximize them....that's something only a tune can achieve.

I'm going to eventually tune it. The thing is I live in South Dakota so I'm going to need to either travel to get it tuned or get it ECUTEK tuned. So it's going to take some time to get that done. I'm going to get it dynoed after though.

Mysilverz · 02-05-2016, 11:51 PM

My car was running fine with fast intentions cat back, test pipes, and stillen gen 3. It wasn't till the manifold was ported out that the car started running too lean. You'll be fine.

DEpointfive0 · 02-06-2016, 12:48 AM

My car runs GREAT with no tune, and every breather mod

BOLIO 671 · 02-06-2016, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Proposed

I'm going to eventually tune it. The thing is I live in South Dakota so I'm going to need to either travel to get it tuned or get it ECUTEK tuned. So it's going to take some time to get that done. I'm going to get it dynoed after though.

If ur gonna dyno I recommend doing a dyno before the tune and one during the tune. That way u can see the difference that the tune makes....

tonythetiger · 02-06-2016, 11:02 AM

tune is not required its up to you if you wanna pay >$500 upfront for very small gains but increased throttle response. the ecu does a pretty good job of compensating

Chuck33079 · 02-06-2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tonythetiger

tune is not required its up to you if you wanna pay >$500 upfront for very small gains but increased throttle response. the ecu does a pretty good job of compensating

Small peak gains, sure. There's more power under the curve, as well as the throttle response you mentioned. Not to mention the cooler temps from adjusting the fan tables. It's well worth the money once you're done with bolt ons.

lj909 · 02-06-2016, 12:02 PM

Tune it! But if you need to wait, just make sure your running premium fuel

02-05-2016, 06:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Proposed Base Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: United States Posts: 30 Drives: 17 370Z Black M6 Rep Power: 10	Is tuning a must? Hello, I have a quick question. I was debating on getting the CBE by Invidia, but my question is since I have CAI and HFC will I need a tune right away after the install or will it not hurt it to drive around without a tune for a while? I know air to fuel will be all off.

02-05-2016, 06:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	No, you don't need a tune. But if you to optimize and gain good power, get a tune. __________________

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DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	My car runs GREAT with no tune, and every breather mod __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

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tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	tune is not required its up to you if you wanna pay >$500 upfront for very small gains but increased throttle response. the ecu does a pretty good job of compensating __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

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lj909 Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Riverside Posts: 584 Drives: 40th 370Z Rep Power: 12	Tune it! But if you need to wait, just make sure your running premium fuel __________________ PW 07 HR350Z R.I.P. Totaled by 82yr old woman 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

02-05-2016, 06:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	It won't be too bad with HFC's. Best way to check is get a dyno and the AFR's read. If you're over just over 13, I wouldnt wait too long. Over 13.5, I wouldnt dare drive. If you're currently high 11's, low 12's, you should be okay with an exhaust upgrade. This is just my opinion, I'm no expert

02-05-2016, 11:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mysilverz Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Birminham Al Posts: 205 Drives: 2013 370z silver M6 Rep Power: 10	My car was running fine with fast intentions cat back, test pipes, and stillen gen 3. It wasn't till the manifold was ported out that the car started running too lean. You'll be fine.

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