Nissan 370Z Forum  

Can I use Ecutek? help

Think his name is Bill. A GTR tuner but I'm right where you're at now. Can be tuned but with none of the features. Might still pull the trigger as

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Tuning


Like Tree24Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-07-2016, 01:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southwest FL
Posts: 1,374
Drives: G37S
Rep Power: 29
elperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Think his name is Bill. A GTR tuner but I'm right where you're at now. Can be tuned but with none of the features. Might still pull the trigger as I believe 08 can still get the knock sensor and control timing. I currently have Uprev.
hooey_b likes this.
elperuano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2016, 04:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Los Angeles, CA.
Posts: 193
Drives: 08 G37S S/C
Rep Power: 40
RadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeRadioFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Well the statement that it CAN be tuned is more than I got before! This would still be a huge benefit for Stillen supercharged cars who want to run speed density. So it seems like there is SOME progress SOMEWHERE, even if it's quiet and slow... there might be a light at the end of the tunnel yet!
RadioFlyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2016, 06:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RadioFlyer View Post
Well the statement that it CAN be tuned is more than I got before! This would still be a huge benefit for Stillen supercharged cars who want to run speed density. So it seems like there is SOME progress SOMEWHERE, even if it's quiet and slow... there might be a light at the end of the tunnel yet!
Yeah...I think it was someone on myg37.com who told me that, one of their boys had just the tune, no extra features and goodies.

I'm going to ask ecutek if they can manage to just program one or two features in instead of the whole thing, but I'm sure that'll cost way more than nominal pricing .

After reading half the internet, I've found out two things:

1) haltech platinum pro series standalone is a good option, but that'll be a failsafe if I can't get this to work.

2) it MAY BE POSSIBLE to SWAP ECUs. After talking with Tommy (@tommyboykim on IG), it seems like I'll have to transplant the wiring harness along with the newer ecu. Meaning I have to get all the modules too.

Anyone know where I can find a list of all the control modules so I know what to burn my money on?
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2016, 06:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southwest FL
Posts: 1,374
Drives: G37S
Rep Power: 29
elperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I don't think Haltech is available for our cars. I only know of 1 person that got it to work but he was Hal.
hooey_b likes this.
elperuano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2016, 06:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooey_b View Post
Yeah...I think it was someone on myg37.com who told me that, one of their boys had just the tune, no extra features and goodies.

I'm going to ask ecutek if they can manage to just program one or two features in instead of the whole thing, but I'm sure that'll cost way more than nominal pricing .

After reading half the internet, I've found out two things:

1) haltech platinum pro series standalone is a good option, but that'll be a failsafe if I can't get this to work.

2) it MAY BE POSSIBLE to SWAP ECUs. After talking with Tommy (@tommyboykim on IG), it seems like I'll have to transplant the wiring harness along with the newer ecu. Meaning I have to get all the modules too.

Anyone know where I can find a list of all the control modules so I know what to burn my money on?
To answer my own question: FSM.

How To Use NICOclub.com

I'm pulling the I/O signals from the 09 and 08 and comparing the two to see if I can just do a straight up swap with minimal modifications to my wiring harness...or if I'ma have to swap out the entire control system.

Quote:
Originally Posted by elperuano View Post
I don't think Haltech is available for our cars. I only know of 1 person that got it to work but he was Hal.
Word..I took a look @ the thread I saw that in on myg37.com...and both people who were showering it with praise were banned lol.





on another note, even if swapping the ECU /and wiring harness works, the car is still going to have to go to the dealership to have it reprogrammed with the VIN, NATS, and new key...everything else (all the ECU re-learning procedures) can be performed by owner.


I'll have an update probably by the end of next week with a tentative grocery list of things to make this work.
elperuano likes this.
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2016, 05:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

I've found a few leads that I'm trying to follow up at the moment...I'm working out the signal input/output labels and signal strength to see if it can cross over signals effectively or even at all.

There have been a few ecu mods that I've come across, but nothing substantial.

Just recently got back in touch w/Ecutek, they told me that their techs are gonna start looking at this.

Happy at this point...seems like things are moving.
RadioFlyer likes this.
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2016, 06:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

So I've gotten in contact with T. Sinclair and P. Blamire from Ecutek...they say they don't have any solutions, and I'm guessing they're not willing to dedicate any resources to solving it. I know I probably wouldn't in the larger aspect of things.

Still trying to signal match the 08/09 ECU input/output signals...haven't really been on the ball with that lately, pet got sick, nephew wanted to chill, etc. Hopefully no more distractions for now *knock on wood*.

A guy I talk to down in Florida claims to have the full Ecutek working on his G. I had originally thought that he had a 2010 IPL, but I guess not. He messaged me last night saying he was going to get in touch with his tuner. If this is legit, then I'll be getting Ecutek this year definitely...I had found a hookup on getting UpRev for the low in the meantime till I had figured out this situation with Ecutek.

So with that said, if this tuner turns out to be the genius my guy claims he is...and I'll definitely refer his name to everyone I come across, since I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want me divulging exactly HOW he can get Ecutek RaceROM to operate in its entirety on an 08 G37S.
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 01:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

*******UPDATE*******

got in touch with Tommy K. In florida, he has an 08 ipl w/ ecutek RaceROM. Find a like ecm, same transmission, it's a strait swap and reprogramming at the dealership (to reprogram NATS and the key)

I'm super ecstatic about this, I'll be getting the ecm in the next week months or so (just bought upper ctrl arms, ported TBs, and am about to buy new injectors/fuel pump.


I think the reason why J. Visconti's attempt didn't work is because the guy bought an ECM for a model w/ a different transmission.
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 10:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooey_b View Post
*******UPDATE*******

got in touch with Tommy K. In florida, he has an 08 ipl w/ ecutek RaceROM. Find a like ecm, same transmission, it's a strait swap and reprogramming at the dealership (to reprogram NATS and the key)

I'm super ecstatic about this, I'll be getting the ecm in the next week months or so (just bought upper ctrl arms, ported TBs, and am about to buy new injectors/fuel pump.


I think the reason why J. Visconti's attempt didn't work is because the guy bought an ECM for a model w/ a different transmission.
IPL as in the performance division of Infiniti? I'd double check what you are actually getting because that division didn't open until 2010, so a 2008 IPL ECU is unatainium.
StillenZ84 likes this.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwick View Post
IPL as in the performance division of Infiniti? I'd double check what you are actually getting because that division didn't open until 2010, so a 2008 IPL ECU is unatainium.
*unobtainium

I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure he said 2008 w/ 2010 ipl ECM .

2008 G37S 6mt coupe + 2010 IPL ECM= 2008 IPL G37S

Last edited by hooey_b; 01-28-2016 at 12:42 PM. Reason: Grammar nazi check
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 05:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465057
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooey_b View Post
*unobtainium

I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure he said 2008 w/ 2010 ipl ECM .

2008 G37S 6mt coupe + 2010 IPL ECM= 2008 IPL G37S
Huh...Been saying it wrong all these years.
elperuano and hooey_b like this.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2016, 10:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwick View Post
IPL as in the performance division of Infiniti? I'd double check what you are actually getting because that division didn't open until 2010, so a 2008 IPL ECU is unatainium.
I asked him, and actually got in touch with his tuner too. It IS an 08 with the 2010 IPL ECM, so technically a 2008 IPL
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 01:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Ohio
Posts: 35
Drives: 08 G37S AB 6MT
Rep Power: 10
familyguy4756 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks hooey_b for the info. Also thanks to radio for his detailed email/review on the stillen SC.

What exactly are we missing out on if we go with uprev on an 08? (no flat foot shifting, no flex fuel, no launch ctrl)?

Is it the general consensus that ecutek just runs better especially in FI applications?


Now which money pit to throw some cash at? The G or a down payment on a house
familyguy4756 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 02:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 126
Drives: 2008 G37S 6MT
Rep Power: 10
hooey_b is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by familyguy4756 View Post
Thanks hooey_b for the info. Also thanks to radio for his detailed email/review on the stillen SC.

What exactly are we missing out on if we go with uprev on an 08? (no flat foot shifting, no flex fuel, no launch ctrl)?

Is it the general consensus that ecutek just runs better especially in FI applications?


Now which money pit to throw some cash at? The G or a down payment on a house
No problem mayne.

As far as I know, the main selling points that got me were the boost by gear control (eliminates need for boost controller), flex fuel that adapts to ethanol content (inline ethanol sensor tied to the harness to provide live input on ethanol content for adjustment), and also they have the true values for the VVEL, so you can actually change your intake cams' timing. I dunno by how much, but you can. UpRev has a "virtual cam" that pretends to mess with the intake cams- that's when I made the choice with Ecutek.

And yeah, there are the other benefits you've mentioned, the flat-foot shifting (i dunno how much that is actually needed), map switching on the fly, TRUE 2 STEP (UpRev, from what I understand, you have to have 2 maps, one that cuts fuel @ specified launch rpm, then you have to switch maps AS you launch. stupid IMO.) That, and majority of the reviews I've read (if not all of them) mention smoother throttle control, and usually an average of about 10 hp increase over UpRev with the same modifications.

If you're worried about it becoming a money pit, don't worry. I've got a latina gf who dictates the budgeting lol. If you're not too particular about who tunes, I know of a shop down in Texas called Dynotronics, they're selling an e-tune package that includes the license, tuning suite kit, and the initial calibration (tune) with unlimited revisions to keep up with Ecutek updates. $660+ tax, free shipping. That coupled with the cost of the ECM swap will more than likely even out to what the average cost of an Ecutek tune will cost you ($700-$850), probably no more than +$200 more. I'm expecting to pay around $1k for the entire thing, ECM swap, reprogramming, and tune.



Anyone else, please chime in if I'm wrong or missing anything
hooey_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 05:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 144
Drives: G37s
Rep Power: 13
Kojack is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooey_b View Post
*******UPDATE*******

got in touch with Tommy K. In florida, he has an 08 ipl w/ ecutek RaceROM. Find a like ecm, same transmission, it's a strait swap and reprogramming at the dealership (to reprogram NATS and the key)

I'm super ecstatic about this, I'll be getting the ecm in the next week months or so (just bought upper ctrl arms, ported TBs, and am about to buy new injectors/fuel pump.


I think the reason why J. Visconti's attempt didn't work is because the guy bought an ECM for a model w/ a different transmission.
This is a very interesting finding. I guess this is good for 6mt but for us with 08' 5speed auto wont work due to 09' and up are 7spd so it's not compatible.
Kojack is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ECUTEK - Everything osbornsm Tuning 142 04-25-2019 01:35 PM
ECUTEK from z1 MicntaeG35 Tuning 11 12-30-2015 04:06 PM
Just went ECUtek Zipper1 Tuning 27 12-01-2015 02:50 PM
I <3 EcuTek avery370z Tuning 57 08-01-2015 11:45 AM
EcuTek ANMVQ Tuning 82 11-27-2013 10:40 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2