New Uprev Feature... V-Cam

Megan370z · 10-20-2015, 06:55 PM

I opened this thread and also bitched about them like 2 years ago, Uprev and Cobb was the one who offered tuning software to the 370z platform and then Cobb left to focus on F/I instead. Uprev was still around but not much development going on the 370z which wasn't really needed because they knew that everybody would get the Uprev license and barely developed anything about the VVEL that still need to be worked on but it does work after knowing how the system work.

They went on to many other Infinity/Nissan platforms which prevented them to give much focus on the 370z.

A year or 2 ago, an Ecutek guy showed up here with a whole bunch of feature that Ecutek would offer but from what Ive seen and read . the customer support wasnt great and pretty much disappeared for almost a year then the features that was planned actually came to life, with features rivalizing those from Uprev then they had that big update where they started offering feature that are usually only seen on standalone.

Uprev has done nothing but removing from the beta testing the VVEL to the general PRO Tuner, including with limited end user support vs what I was use to in the beginning, back in 2009-2012.

At this moment the only critical part of Uprev is that the customer can tune himself his ECU Vs Ecutek does not allow but only their certified tuner.

Even if I plan to get another 370z as daily driver in the near future, Im glad that I sold my PRO Tuner cable.

hjo1078 · 10-20-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by norris_83

What is wrong with everyone ganging up against Uprev? They seemed to be the best tuning software for several years with no one complaining at all, only until ECUTEK got released?

Well you said it, they WERE the best, nothing wrong with uprev, it got the job done, but ecutek does it better, why u gotta get all butthurt over it ?

There was no competition before ECUTEK, now there is. Which means Uprev will be working harder and getting into more development to support the needs of the Z platform. To Flame a company that was the ONLY company up until last year before the release of the new ECUTEK just goes to shows what kind of market the Z platform is.

Well now is time for uprev to make its tuning software better, until then why would anyone stick with an inferior product?

No wonder GTM/Gamma ripped everyone off, they wanted to make their moneys worth coz they knew in any second people would backlash against them once a different company came out.

huh?

your argument makes no sense dude. So u saying competetion is what made gtm scam everyone including yourself bc they knew a better company would come out ?

lost some respect for you dude.

norris_83 · 10-21-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

It ain't that. ECUTEK came out with new features that are performance based. UpRev's up-date is just for sound, not performance. People want performance results. It offers more. That is what drives the market. That's way you see guys switching from UpRev to ECUTEK. I may be one of them in the future.

I do understand, but that's a ghost cam that no one has been able to do to the with the Uprev software yet. It's not an update to their software, its a tune based update that people would enjoy.

Just like when I started doing the 2step anti-lag on Uprev, it caused alot of commotion and people still haven't been able to do what I do, with ECUTEK or with Uprev.

Uprev will surely be coming out with an update sooner or later, and I'm sure people will start the Ecutek vs Uprev debates and then Uprev take the gold until Ecutek updates whatever else Uprev did come up with.

I'm not saying that the Ecutek isn't superior at the moment with more features, but how many platforms do Ecutek support? 6?

Uprev support the whole range of Nissan/Infiniti vehicles. They even support vehicles in the Middle East that no one else has ever touched, nor will they crack the code for the Y61 Patrols for a long time to come.

I just think it's really childish people go against a company that's been supporting them for years with very good customer support just because another software company came out with an update.

Can't wait to quote people who slagged Uprev now in the future, when they start slagging off Ecutek and state Uprev is more superior.

norris_83 · 10-21-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hjo1078

huh?

your argument makes no sense dude. So u saying competetion is what made gtm scam everyone including yourself bc they knew a better company would come out ?

lost some respect for you dude.

I actually think it does make sense. But I don't think you got my last point which was saying the Z platform community seems to be whats about now, not about whats been. GTM probably scammed people coz they knew no matter what, they would be in the position they are now.

Whether or not they ripped me off is a completely different situation, (not the arguement here), but GTM was held on a Golden Throne till they started messing up. I respected them till they ripped me off. But that's what they did, rip me off. I didn't screw them over because Fast Intentions/AAM/Greddy came out with a better kit, I screwed them over coz they ripped me off.

Uprev hasn't ripped anyone off. Have they?

Hotrodz · 10-21-2015, 06:53 PM

You have a right to your opinion just like everyone else on here...even if it is wrong. In the world of retail consumers rule and that is why most companies work so hard to create brand loyalty. Why, because consumers have the right to jump ship for whatever reason they want to...it's a shark eat shark world in the retail business and you are only as good as yor last sale period...so if I'm hearing you correctly it should be no surprise that UpRev has not done much for the Z, it's a small market if they are having better success with other platforms. Also, if you really understood what most everyone said, UpRev is a good product, but if you are looking for the best performance tuning software they are now number two in that category.

Lastly, if looking cool by sounding fast and shooting flame is your gig then more power to ya...Mine does the same thing but only at speed so if you are lucky enough to be in my draft...you will get flamed when I decide to slow down lol.

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GaleForce · 10-21-2015, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You have a right to your opinion just like everyone else on here...even if it is wrong. In the world of retail consumers rule and that is why most companies work so hard to create brand loyalty. Why, because consumers have the right to jump ship for whatever reason they want to...it's a shark eat shark world in the retail business and you are only as good as yor last sale period...so if I'm hearing you correctly it should be no surprise that UpRev has not done much for the Z, it's a small market if they are having better success with other platforms. Also, if you really understood what most everyone said, UpRev is a good product, but if you are looking for the best performance tuning software they are now number two in that category.

Lastly, if looking cool by sounding fast and shooting flame is your gig then more power to ya...Mine does the same thing but only at speed so if you are lucky enough to be in my draft...you will get flamed when I decide to slow down lol.

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I want to look cool and sound fast. E-Cams (what ever it's called) it is

Hotrodz · 10-21-2015, 11:59 PM

Lol you be show and go guy fo sho...now that is cool!!

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ANMVQ · 10-22-2015, 09:06 AM

I think this is the most rediclous thing UPREV could have done. Don't try to work on the VVEL or for that matter even work on "Total" timing control, Now why would they want to do that. Their getting the buts kicked" IMO" by ECUTEK and they release fake cams :/.

And UPREV will NEVER be able to compete with ECUTEK on this platfom till they have total timing control. Just for that feature ECUTEK will make more WHP on the same car. I did the tests and pick up like 17 WHP just going from UPREV to ECUTEK and yes the car performs
better in every aspect. The power always feels like its there. With UPREV I had to romp on the car first a time or two to get the most out of it :/ ...

njobe89 · 10-22-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

I think this is the most rediclous thing UPREV could have done. Don't try to work on the VVEL or for that matter even work on "Total" timing control, Now why would they want to do that. Their getting the buts kicked" IMO" by ECUTEK and they release fake cams :/.

And UPREV will NEVER be able to compete with ECUTEK on this platfom till they have total timing control. Just for that feature ECUTEK will make more WHP on the same car. I did the tests and pick up like 17 WHP just going from UPREV to ECUTEK and yes the car performs
better in every aspect. The power always feels like its there. With UPREV I had to romp on the car first a time or two to get the most out of it :/ ...

not sure you could pick up 17whp just by switching... in that case with e85 and switching to ecutek, i would be pushing close to 360whp, which just doesn't seem realistic. but i would agree with you that ecutek is kicking uprevs as$.

seymore4 · 10-22-2015, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

UpRev's up-date is just for sound, not performance. People want performance results. It offers more. That is what drives the market.

Actually you wouldn't believe how many people are lining up to get this done.. No its not for everyone but there is definitely a market for it. Maybe not among this select group of 370z performance enthusiasts.. but within the whole Nissan/infiniti tuning scene there is

ANMVQ · 10-22-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

not sure you could pick up 17whp just by switching... in that case with e85 and switching to ecutek, i would be pushing close to 360whp, which just doesn't seem realistic. but i would agree with you that ecutek is kicking uprevs as$.

I know doesn't sound right but true .

Lower lines are UPREV peak was 286 ECUTEK was 302, sorry 16WHP.

Rusty · 10-22-2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by seymore4

Actually you wouldn't believe how many people are lining up to get this done.. No its not for everyone but there is definitely a market for it. Maybe not among this select group of 370z performance enthusiasts.. but within the whole Nissan/infiniti tuning scene there is

All that I can say is.........RICERS!!!!!!!

Elmo370z · 10-23-2015, 02:03 AM

They show throw in free racing strips and stickers to put everywhere, now this will flood the market

njobe89 · 10-23-2015, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

I know doesn't sound right but true .

Lower lines are UPREV peak was 286 ECUTEK was 302, sorry 16WHP.

that's nuts.... did the same guy tune you with uprev and ecutek?

i know weather temperature and all that matters some, but i doubt it would play 16whp difference lol

ANMVQ · 10-23-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

that's nuts.... did the same guy tune you with uprev and ecutek?

i know weather temperature and all that matters some, but i doubt it would play 16whp difference lol

The temp on the 302WHP was more humid LOL ait temp was about the same. The dynno guys were actually surprised I broke 300

. The test times were the same early morning but a few months apart. No different tuner. I dont think they cross over. The UPREV tuner is a very good one some I know the tuner Vs Tuner is out. ECUTEK just was able to make more WHP.

Both tunes were Etunes also

10-20-2015, 06:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
Megan370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,156 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 24	I opened this thread and also bitched about them like 2 years ago, Uprev and Cobb was the one who offered tuning software to the 370z platform and then Cobb left to focus on F/I instead. Uprev was still around but not much development going on the 370z which wasn't really needed because they knew that everybody would get the Uprev license and barely developed anything about the VVEL that still need to be worked on but it does work after knowing how the system work. They went on to many other Infinity/Nissan platforms which prevented them to give much focus on the 370z. A year or 2 ago, an Ecutek guy showed up here with a whole bunch of feature that Ecutek would offer but from what Ive seen and read . the customer support wasnt great and pretty much disappeared for almost a year then the features that was planned actually came to life, with features rivalizing those from Uprev then they had that big update where they started offering feature that are usually only seen on standalone. Uprev has done nothing but removing from the beta testing the VVEL to the general PRO Tuner, including with limited end user support vs what I was use to in the beginning, back in 2009-2012. At this moment the only critical part of Uprev is that the customer can tune himself his ECU Vs Ecutek does not allow but only their certified tuner. Even if I plan to get another 370z as daily driver in the near future, Im glad that I sold my PRO Tuner cable. __________________ Megan Journal Click Me ....................One Man Team Motorsport Click Me

10-21-2015, 06:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	You have a right to your opinion just like everyone else on here...even if it is wrong. In the world of retail consumers rule and that is why most companies work so hard to create brand loyalty. Why, because consumers have the right to jump ship for whatever reason they want to...it's a shark eat shark world in the retail business and you are only as good as yor last sale period...so if I'm hearing you correctly it should be no surprise that UpRev has not done much for the Z, it's a small market if they are having better success with other platforms. Also, if you really understood what most everyone said, UpRev is a good product, but if you are looking for the best performance tuning software they are now number two in that category. Lastly, if looking cool by sounding fast and shooting flame is your gig then more power to ya...Mine does the same thing but only at speed so if you are lucky enough to be in my draft...you will get flamed when I decide to slow down lol. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk TerribleONE, JARblue, GaleForce and 2 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

10-21-2015, 11:59 PM	#22 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Lol you be show and go guy fo sho...now that is cool!! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk GaleForce likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

10-22-2015, 09:06 AM	#23 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	I think this is the most rediclous thing UPREV could have done. Don't try to work on the VVEL or for that matter even work on "Total" timing control, Now why would they want to do that. Their getting the buts kicked" IMO" by ECUTEK and they release fake cams :/. And UPREV will NEVER be able to compete with ECUTEK on this platfom till they have total timing control. Just for that feature ECUTEK will make more WHP on the same car. I did the tests and pick up like 17 WHP just going from UPREV to ECUTEK and yes the car performs better in every aspect. The power always feels like its there. With UPREV I had to romp on the car first a time or two to get the most out of it :/ ... StillenZ84 likes this. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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