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Not exactly stock but i made 15hp and mucho midrange on e85 vs cali 91

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Old 09-26-2015, 02:15 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Not exactly stock but i made 15hp and mucho midrange on e85 vs cali 91
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Not exactly stock but i made 15hp and mucho midrange on e85 vs cali 91
so it is safe to say that 20whp is achievable?
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Up to 20whp is what my tuner told me yesterday.
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Up to 20whp is what my tuner told me yesterday.
that's what i'm hearing as well... one tuner told me 20-30whp and another 6whp
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What would be the proper injector size for running E85? Is 450cc enough? How about 550 or 600?
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stock gtr injectors are good, which are 570 i believe??
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It's just a couple EFI fittings you can get on Summit, then the Zeitronix digital to analog convertor and a content sensor. Really simple. If I get bored I'll build a parts list of the correct fittings to buy.



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ECUTek didn't release "flex fuel" per-say. Their software allows for custom maps to be written, and the tuner is able to use those custom maps to add Flex Fuel support into the ECU.
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Great write up! Any chance you could publish a parts list to go E85?
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Great write up! Any chance you could publish a parts list to go E85?
Our Z is about to be Twin Turbo here in the next couple weeks, so the flex kit (if I have the time to put together one) I'm just going to integrate into the fuel line kit FT sells for their TT kit. When I pull the motor I can take a look at the fuel lines and give you guys the part #'s to buy to integrate the flex sensor to the stock fuel system.

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I assume you will be running some kind of stand-alone engine management system to utilize the output of an ethanol-content sensor?
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Zeitronix ECA : SEMA Award Winning Ethanol Content Analyzer and Flex Fuel Sensor for E-85 and E-85/gasoline Blends
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Not exactly stock but i made 15hp and mucho midrange on e85 vs cali 91
You also had a dry sump, jun cam, and retarded manifold and revved 8200 rpms. Most of us won't see those type of gains switching to e85.
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You also had a dry sump, jun cam, and retarded manifold and revved 8200 rpms. Most of us won't see those type of gains switching to e85.
OP made 12WHP, see post #1.
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Im still not convinced. 93 vs e85 with zero changes makes zero sense.
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Im still not convinced. 93 vs e85 with zero changes makes zero sense.

I already explained it
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