Has uprev or any software cracked VVEL?
 

I searched and read plenty of threads about an hours worth before the flames begin...

My tuner was looking at the software before we go uprev and he said well damn that's disappointing looks like Uprev has the maps but still unchangable.

I read the GTM was working on cracking VVEL. If that's the same company for turbos aern't they dead in the water at the moment?

Anyway I'm just trying to get the right software the first time since it's not cheap anyway around it. However it is kind of disappointing if it's still not cracked. I thought I read somewhere they had cracked or "almost" cracked it and I'm wondering if it's because I have a 2015 it's just not available for this year yet.

I also read ECUTECH did somewhere but I've heard a lot of things ECUTECH "did" I've been reading posts from 2011 to present and haven't found reliable information. So if someone who is competent with current tunes please enlighten me?

**THIS IS NOT A WHO'S BETTER THREAD JUST A HAS VVEL BEEN CRACKED AND IF SO BY WHOM**

Thanks in advance,

Nef

Uprev w/ protuner cable allows you to adjust VVEL.

See further here http://www.the370z.com/south-east-re...-thread-7.html

Yup you can tune VVEL with UpRev, my tuner does it on every tune.

Ok so it's the cable that's stopping us or do you mean the tuner software vs standard?

Few more questioins so my tuner said that I can't just buy a license anymore? Like the standard base tune for 250 on their website? He says you have to buy the whole tuner kit? That can't be right considering Z1 charges around 600 to dyno tune the car they would be loosing money.

I'm confused and aggravated atm the closest pro tuner on their website is about 3 hours away I already e-mailed them my VIN so they can see if it's been cracked which my local tuner plugged in and said that the rom is available for my part number. He also said he has to pro version so WTF? Why can't I just buy a license? I'm assuming what he has is just for one vehicle and there is something else you would buy as a shop to sell licenses with all the available options like the cracked VVEL etc? So if he needs to tune my car I would need a pro tuner license?

edit: Nvm sooo I talked to uprev already pretty much there is no longer a real support for local tuners. They only release the vvel crack to their pro tuners. I'm not going to pay for the tuner version since they specifically said you can't adjust vvel. If that's the case your better off buying the standard. I'm pretty damn aggravated with all this I need a damn tune and can't get a decent one without taking a couple days to get to one of their tuners. Then take in drive time expenses etc I'm well over a grand just for a tune when I have a dyno shop 5 minutes away and a tuner not much further. Any alternatives guys? I'm thinking ECUTECH is looking pretty good right now but that's all e-tune as well unless you're in CT?

Thats not even close to right. You can buy the cable and license for $250 from UPREV's website and have any Etune you car . You obviously have pay the tuner but you can do it. That's what I did. I have ZERO places near me I can trust. I would have to drive 3+ hours one way to Auto Dynamics in NY. I am running an Etune from Seymore4( member here) With AWD8's throttle table. Car is super responsive and I would bet is very,very close to perfect tune wise!

Try contacting Seymore4. BTW he does tune the VVEL timing

Let me clear this up a little. Uprev does allow you to adjust VVEL. However, the way they go about adjusting VVEL is more of a "hack" of VVEL.

Ecutek actually has all the parameters of VVEL named and laid out for the Tuner to adjust the individual characteristics of VVEL.

This is the reason I switched to ECUTEK...

I contacted uprev via phone to get my information they no longer sell the license only the packages. They told my tuner the exact same thing. He said they used to but no longer..

Yea and you can get it for like $900! I REALLY want to switch but not for that price tage and I still wanna see a compare VS UPREV same car, dyno mods ,ETC. I'll do it if I can get Visotti to tune my car:tiphat:

You buy the cable and it comes with a license on it? cable and License is the $550 package. Check their site

Osiris - Standard - Engine Management - Store

Ya that shotty 550 package is only for etunes yes you have to buy that package to get a license now or find a pro tuner they will not just sell a license I tried. As far as ecutech I have a tuner and dyno local I don't want all this etune **** I want to be able to control my own software and car shouldn't be too much to ask for. Uprev admits not to allowing vvel tuning even with their tuner kit. Its ridiculous either etune or go find a pro tuner to get a tune is your only options...

Well if anyone wants an Osiris license pm me and I will sell you mine for $300...

If it makes you feel any better, more shops are going to pick up EcuTek tuning in the near future. These new features are enticing, and good shops are going to want to be the first to be able to tune for customers. I'm pretty sure Forged Performance is tuning EcuTek now.

That sucks that UpRev has axed the tuner version of Osiris. That means mine just went up in value or is now going to be worthless lol.

They are still keeping the tuner version as normal.
nothing change for this.

they just seem to have eliminated the first package that was basically only a license which a Pro-Tuner can do. The new package is the license + the cable to flash your ECU with etuned roms or tuned by the Tuner/Pro Tuner. No different than ECUTECK which aren't allowing anybody to tune your ECU but the shop owner that got the training to do so.

If was in the market for either the Uprev or Ecuteck. I would still choose the Uprev due to the fact that I can tune myself and not rely on a shop with high cost to tune.
But if they would allow it, yeah I would switch to Ecuteck.

That with your cable? I'm assuming so since they're linked and if that's the case I'll prolly buy it until ecutek becomes end user...

No cable just the license. Topspeed motorsports is holding my license and can transfer it to the new owner.

They raised the price to $775 so your tuner version is actually MORE valuable now. The only thing that changed was that they no longer sell the reflash licenses without the cable...

They never have offered end user VVEL tuning support with their software so not offering it now shouldn't be an issue, IMO.

So if you go to a pro-tuner you have to buy the cable now?

I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to buy cable, just curious. It's a pretty good diagnostic/logging tool for the money.

No, protuners still are able to sell you just the license, and will usually try to since that has the highest profit margin for them. What changed is that Uprev is no longer selling licenses direct to consumers without the cable

I didn't realize they would do that. How would you load it without a cable?

Another question for you. If I upgrade my license/cable from standard to tuner cable. Would I be able to use my cable to adjust other tuner licenses or just mine?

Most shops won't even tell you about the reflash cables, they just sell you the license and dyno tune the car. When you call and ask about an "osiris tune" if you don't specifically ask about the cable that is what they are referring to. Pro tuner cables are able to hold multiple licenses and reflash/tune multiple cars.

You can tune any car that already has a license on the ecu with the normal tuner version cable. It is not locked to any specific ecu.

if you want to upgrade to Uprev, Uprev will give you a file that you will load into your cable to activate the Tuner version.
Yes your future Tuner cable will be able to tune other cars with Uprev depending if you have their file that was previously tuned or your will be need to download their base rom from Uprev.

not sure if the option of downloading any rom is available with the Tuner cable or if its a feature Only for the Pro cable.. you might have to email Uprev to obtain the new base file.

I talked with UpRev and they told me that as long as my rom file from my tuner is unlocked I'll have no issues. I just didn't want to ask them if I would be able to tune multiple cars cuz I wasn't sure what answer they would give me since they don't profit if me and a buddy share a tuner cable.

Re-word it not to talk about tuning, but mention you both have licenses and you have a tuner cable and if he has problems can you make minor adjustments so he does not have to wait on a tuner.
If they read between the lines you basically are asking can you tune the other car, but the view point is that you want to help a friend fix his cars tune that might be shoddy or causing issues.

Not a bad idea. I thought about just having the agreement that he's in for half and I'll refund him the money if it doesn't work.

Now if I could just find away to make it look like a wedding expense:rofl2:

They won't sell it to you even if you have a cable we have one and won't sell the license. Both me and my tuner called and he's pretty pissed because he's not a pro tuner and just does a few 370s there is not a lot here to do. I know of like 4 decent ones in my area now if you expand to lower ms la and fl panhandle then there's more and clubs but not much were I'm at. A lot of evos mustangs chargers challengers etc... You see some base zs but not a lot of modding or they hide lol

yes, EcuTek has it all 1000% defined... Maps and Logging.


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It would be nice if Ecutek had more end user capabilities, or any for that matter.

It's something that's being talked about.

Maybe I'll make a thread about it

John

Here - http://www.the370z.com/tuning/104218...lf-tuning.html

Cool to see the tables.

ROM ID looks familiar. LOL :)

Have anyone used the EcuTek after its been cracked?
And how did you notice a large difference in response, whp, and tq?

Adjusting the vvel gives about 5whp/trq roughly, it's not really a huge game changer for na vhr's. I think once Jim wolf releases a stage 2 intake cam for our cars it will make more power.

Those are exhaust cams. The intake is VVEL.

That would be cool if they release a tuner version to public like the frs. I probably wouldn't touch my tune but if they give literature about what is all there I would read it to learn. I know uprev has some good literature about how the tables work and what they do.

Found this video

Tuning with EcuTek's ProECU Tuning Suite for the…: https://youtu.be/12jMvNNlGpM

That was pretty cool. Now I'm really impressed with ecutek. Those tables are like 2x the resolution of Oem.