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visconti 05-23-2015 07:44 AM

EcuTek Releases Phase 2 RaceRom !!
 
This information was taken directly from their news letter.

After many months of development EcuTek are proud to announce the release of RaceROM Phase 2 for 370Z. It's been two years since the initial release of our 370Z software and there has been a huge amount of work put in by the development and testing team to create this class leading product. The full feature list is detailed below


ProECU Updates:

Fully defined Variable Timing Control (VTC) - Set the VTC angle at idle, overrun and on full load
Fully defined Variable Valve Event Lift (VVEL) -Set the VVEL angle at idle, overrun and on full load
Knock control per cylinder - Log and adjust the knock limit for each cylinder
Throttle and torque control - Torque limits and full pedal to throttle control
Detailed Fuel Injector control - Injector size, lag time and firing angle
Overrun fuel cut - Control when the fuel injectors restore
MAF Sensor rescaling - Rescale for new intakes without upsetting the engine load
Cruise control - Adjust the maximum target and set speeds
Radiator fan control - Adjust the fan duty cycle
Gear Ratios - Correct for new gears or final drives

New RaceROM Features:
Map Switching - Rev counter indication of the four different map switch modes
Flat Foot Shift - Full throttle gear changes (Manual Transmission models only)
Speed Density - MAP sensor based tuning with VVEL compensation
RaceROM Controller - Use the cruise control switch gear for adjusting calibration
Knock Warning - Check engine light flashes when knocking is detected
Per Gear Rev Limit - A different rev limit in each gear
Launch Control - Adjustable Launch RPM using the cruise control (Manual Transmission models only)
Custom Maps - Create a map to do almost anything!
Traction Control - Adjustable traction control using custom maps
Boost Control - Closed loop boost control using custom maps
Flex-Fuel - Ethanol flex-fuel tuning using custom maps
AFR Control - Closed loop target AFR control using custom maps
Fail-Safe - Protect the engine from any dangerous situations
Gauge Hijack - Display lambda, AFR, fuel trims or ethanol content on the oil temp gauge



Phase 2 RaceROM Map List

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Map Switching

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Map switching for the 370Z provides 4 separate customizable tuning modes, which can be changed on-the-fly by the driver using the cruise control switchgear.

These modes can be customized to provide bespoke settings such as:

Mode #1 Economy Mode
Tuned to provide the best fuel economy but with reduced performance.
Mode #2 Road Mode
Tuned to provide the best performance for regular fuel quality.
Mode #3 Race Mode
Tuned to provide the best power using high octane race fuel at the track.
Mode #4 Ethanol Fuel Mode
Tuned to run on Ethanol based fuels

Map Switching also works with other RaceROM features such as Launch Control, Flat-foot Shifting or Speed Density, enabling them to be switched on and off depending on the mode selected.


Flat-Foot Shifting

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Flat-foot Shifting allows you to keep your foot flat on the accelerator while changing gears to minimise your gear change time and to maintain engine speed for when the next gear is engaged.

By reducing the engine torque and controlling the air fuel ratio during gearshifts, the engine, clutch and drivetrain are not unnecessarily stressed. This is very important on forced induction vehicles where the power output is substantially higher.


Speed Density

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The Speed Density (SD) feature changes the way the engine load is calculated. When SD mode is activated, the ECU will disregard the MAF sensor reading and will instead calculate mass airflow based on engine speed, manifold pressure, variable valve event lift (VVEL) and air temperature. This feature can be useful in the following conditions:

• Extra large MAF sensor intakes have been fitted causing low air speed and poor air speed stability
• The MAF sensor reading suffers from air turbulence from the compressor wheel (turbo and supercharger models)
• If an external blow off valve has been fitted (turbo models)
• The MAF sensor reading hits 5 volts at high RPM

In addition, the Hybrid Speed Density feature offers a combined MAF and SD configuration, the transition from MAF to SD (or SD to MAF) can be calibrated against a range of activation thresholds like engine speed, mass air flow or manifold pressure. The Speed Density feature can be enabled in any of the map switch modes.

RaceROM Controller

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The RaceROM Controller is a driver-adjustable input to the Custom Maps system. The driver can select a value using the cruise control buttons and it is displayed on the oil temp gauge. The tuner can create a custom map to adjust any of the engine parameters based on the driver’s input. This could be used on a forced induction car, for example, to select a desired level of boost. It can also be used by the tuner to provide a certain amount of live tunability.


Per-Gear Rev Limit

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This feature allows per-gear rev limits to be configured. It could be used to improve 0-60 times by allowing a higher 2nd gear limit to just hit 60 mph / 100 km/h in 2nd, whilst preserving the lower rev limit in other gears.



Launch Control

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The launch RPM is adjustable from the cruise control switchgear and can be enabled for any of the four map switch modes. Also included is an ignition retard traction control feature that can help reduce wheel spin after the launch.

Oil Temp Gauge Hijack

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This feature allows the tuner to repurpose the oil temp gauge to display a different parameter such as AFR or fuel Ethanol content

Custom Maps

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RaceROM Custom Maps allow the tuner to modify the behaviour of the factory ECU by inserting additional maps into the ECU's normal calculations for parameters such as ignition timing, fuel, boost & VVT. It also allows re-purposing of inputs and outputs to measure custom sensors or solenoids not featured on the standard vehicle (Flex-Fuel, EGT, Oil or Fuel Pressure for example).

For more information on these powerful and unique features, see the dedicated Custom Maps Manual. See below a few examples of what is possible using Custom Maps.

Traction Control

Using Custom Maps we can create a fully adjustable Traction Control system that can simply be adjusted using the cruise control switch gear on the steering wheel. Too much or too little wheelspin for the current conditions? Simply fine tune the calibration in an instant. The current Traction Control level can be displayed on the oil temp gauge and the wheel slip amount can also be shown.
This powerful feature is a must on any forced induction models and Custom Maps can even use steering wheel angle and g-sensors for the Traction Control calibration.

Boost Control

RaceROM Custom Maps can offer a wastegate solenoid driven boost control on forced induction models. This can be a basic open loop control setup or a more sophisticated closed loop system with proportional and integral control. Additional compensations for gear, altitude and temperature can also be added. This output duty cycle control can be used on supercharged models to recirculate or vent inlet manifold pressure during part load condition when undersized drives are used. The boost pressure or wastegate duty can also be displayed on the oil temp gauge.

Flex-Fuel

The 370Z can now be accurately tuned for any ethanol content ratio making it a safe and reliable flex-fuel setup. Like with the FR-S and GT-R setups, Custom Maps offers detailed ignition and fuel control for any given ratio and this can be linked to boost control on turbo models. There are already a few ‘plug and play’ kits that make flex fuel upgrades very quick and easy. The current Ethanol content ratio can also be displayed on the oil temp gauge.

AFR Control

The 370Z does not offer a full load closed loop fuelling control like the GT-R. Using Custom Maps we can set up a closed loop injector volume adjustment for a profiled target AFR. The AFR target feedback can come from the factory AF sensors or even better, import true wideband sensors through the rear O2 sensor to set up an accurate closed loop fuelling control. With an AFR fail-safe configured as well, this feature provides unparalleled engine safety for forced induction models.

Fail Safe

Fail-safe maps can be created to protect the engine should the fuelling run lean at high RPM, high boost or high speed. Additional protection can be added for air, coolant and oil temperature exceeding certain thresholds.

visconti 05-23-2015 08:07 AM

Here are a few things that weren't discussed in EcuTek's newsletter

Improved datalogging

-Super Highspeed
EcuTek has increased the datalog rate almost by 4x. This makes it easier for both you and your tuner to see what the car is doing.

-Log more parameters at once
EcuTek has doubled the amount of live data parameters you can log at one time. This allows you see log exactly what you need when you need it.

Improved Fuel Injector Control

Not only has EcuTek properly defined the OEM injector scaler map, but they've included everything your tuner will need to make sure you car starts up perfectly with larger injectors

-Better defined Cranking Maps
-Added "After Start enrichment Maps"
-Added Fuel Injector Compensation (For Non-Return Fuel Systems)

synolimit 05-23-2015 08:11 AM

Balls in your court!! I know you can tune these with both! You must must must tune a Z the best you can on uprev, flash back to stock and retune with this. I know with this being new it might take time but we gotta see a back to back same day, same dyno (gotta be dynojet) same gear, same correction etc. with clearly more stuff to mess with we have to see one tuned to full potential. I'll be realistic too...for the price even 10hp can be worth it cause my parts I sell are only good for 10hp but are way more $$$. Dollar per HP this could be very good.

visconti 05-23-2015 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3207081)
Balls in your court!! I know you can tune these with both! You must must must tune a Z the best you can on uprev, flash back to stock and retune with this. I know with this being new it might take time but we gotta see a back to back same day, same dyno (gotta be dynojet) same gear, same correction etc.


Scott

We are past that already, look at these features. Even if tuning a car with Uprev and ecutek ended up with the same results, UpRev will never have the features EcuTek does.

is that something we can agree on?




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synolimit 05-23-2015 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3207082)
Scott

We are past that already, look at these features. Even if tuning a car with Uprev and ecutek ended up with the same results, UpRev will never have the features EcuTek does.

is that something we can agree on?




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100%. I'm already wide eyed for the FFS, launch and on the fly as I'll be running e85 and like to keep a 93 map!

visconti 05-23-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3207087)
100%. I'm already wide eyed for the FFS, launch and on the fly as I'll be running e85 and like to keep a 93 map!


Well, you can map switch if you want or you can go flex fuel - where the ecu will switch between different tunes based on the ethanol content in the gas tank


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synolimit 05-23-2015 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3207089)
Well, you can map switch if you want or you can go flex fuel - where the ecu will switch between different tunes based on the ethanol content in the gas tank


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Ooooo correct! Hmmm. I'm sure like my old turbo Buick you'll need to just add a ethanol sensor somewhere? Nvm you said there's kits.

NoHyperbole 05-23-2015 09:49 AM

I find it interesting that the EcuTek website has this information posted with a date of July 26, 2015 ("26/07/2015"), which happens to be a Sunday. Is this a typo? Why would EcuTek use a date that is more than two months in the future? According to J. Visconti, Phase 2 is already available.

visconti 05-23-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHyperbole (Post 3207126)
I find it interesting that the EcuTek website has this information posted with a date of July 26, 2015 ("26/07/2015"), which happens to be a Sunday. Is this a typo? Why would EcuTek use a date that is more than two months in the future? According to J. Visconti, Phase 2 is already available.


There's no mystery , just a typo


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Chuck33079 05-23-2015 10:16 AM

One question - How does the oil temp gauge hijack work? It would make sense to repurpose the clock since it's digital, but the oil temp gauge is marked in F from 140 degrees up. How do you read it when you use it for different parameters?

Also, talk me through boost control. We would need to add a solenoid into the system, right?

visconti 05-23-2015 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3207151)
One question - How does the oil temp gauge hijack work? It would make sense to repurpose the clock since it's digital, but the oil temp gauge is marked in F from 140 degrees up. How do you read it when you use it for different parameters?



Also, talk me through boost control. We would need to add a solenoid into the system, right?


On flex fuel cars I've scaled the gauge so 100f = 0% ethanol.. 50% ethanol is 150f.

There's so much you can do.. Like I said above the gauge can be used for ethanol content or you can user the gauge to display a traction or boost control setting which can be adjusted using the cruise control buttons.

The clock isn't driven off the canbus so he can't be hi jacked. If there was a better way to do this ecutek would have done it.


Just hookup a Mac value to your cpc solenoid wire.. I'm making a plug and play kit. I'll have a car setup with this next week.. Fuel system has delayed tuning

John




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Chuck33079 05-23-2015 10:24 AM

Does ecutek plan on expanding their tuner network? I've always been on the fence until these features were released, but you're the only guy out there tuning with it and CT is a bit of a hike from TX.

Alternately, how many people would you need to make a tuning trip worthwhile?

visconti 05-23-2015 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3207155)
Does ecutek plan on expanding their tuner network? I've always been on the fence until these features were released, but you're the only guy out there tuning with it and CT is a bit of a hike from TX.

Alternately, how many people would you need to make a tuning trip worthwhile?


Ecutek is always accepting qualified tuners.

What I can tell you is I've been doing this type of Nissan tuning with ecutek on GTR for several years, a lot of the stuff that's in this software is due to my Involvement behind the scenes... Any skilled tuner can pick up this suite and tune your car but it's going to take a while for them to get a handle on the very advanced custom map stuff that some of us have been using on a daily basis for years.

I do make trips, need my expenses covered and some money in my pocket to make it worth it.. The more cars you have the cheaper it'll be per car.

I'm defiantly down to make a trip

John


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Chuck33079 05-23-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3207157)
I do make trips, need my expenses covered and some money in my pocket to make it worth it.. The more cars you have the cheaper it'll be per car.

Shoot me a pm sometime with what you would need to make it worth your time. I'm nowhere near ready to make a switch just yet, but now that ecutek has come through it's back on the table for me.

dP3NGU1N 05-23-2015 11:29 AM

:excited:So excite

conor1123 05-24-2015 03:40 PM

Neeeed!! Swapping to Ecutek when the turbos come....:stirthepot:

FireDan50 05-24-2015 03:56 PM

This looks like it could be a game changer especially with the launch control, flat foot shifting, and all the other features.

JARblue 05-24-2015 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3207158)
Shoot me a pm sometime with what you would need to make it worth your time. I'm nowhere near ready to make a switch just yet, but now that ecutek has come through it's back on the table for me.

I could probably move forward with the new features sooner, but I'm in no rush (it's been 2 years at this point so what's the hurry). Let me know what kind of time table you're looking at if you think about moving forward on having John make a trip down.

zguynate 05-26-2015 02:15 PM

I may have to make a switch to EcuTek in the future. I really hate that they don't have an end user type deal though.

NefariousZ34 05-27-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3207157)
Ecutek is always accepting qualified tuners.

What I can tell you is I've been doing this type of Nissan tuning with ecutek on GTR for several years, a lot of the stuff that's in this software is due to my Involvement behind the scenes... Any skilled tuner can pick up this suite and tune your car but it's going to take a while for them to get a handle on the very advanced custom map stuff that some of us have been using on a daily basis for years.

I do make trips, need my expenses covered and some money in my pocket to make it worth it.. The more cars you have the cheaper it'll be per car.

I'm defiantly down to make a trip

John


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So is it available for other tuners to get your suite or is this something you're looking at in the future. I see there is an off the shelf and a custom. Is the custom something that I can let my personal tuner adjust or is it still just data logging my dyno and street and then sending that data to you? Then you send me back the maps? I'm looking for a tuner software that my local tuner can adjust that has cracked vvel that's obviously not uprev. Like you've already said even if I get the same numbers the possibilities and options with yours is going to be 100x better. However If it's all done by e-mail or in house vs with my local tuner we can spend hours data logging making fine adjustments etc. I believe that most people would agree this is a better and even more realistic alternative. If people start buying this up like candy the support times are just going to start going further and further out due to the increase in customer base and lack of support on your end? I'm just being blunt if I'm about to drop around a grand on something I want it to be mine and not something I have to try and reach out to someone states away to try and get my maps done unless I run into a problem. Then I would want to reach out not before.

njobe89 05-27-2015 01:19 PM

i think it will take some time for tuners to get used to this as majority have been using uprev for years.

NefariousZ34 05-27-2015 10:15 PM

Yes but is it end user at all is the real question

visconti 05-27-2015 10:21 PM

No it's ProTuner only.. Not end user


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tommyguns 05-27-2015 10:40 PM

I've sent you pm and email, please respond.:tiphat:

dP3NGU1N 05-27-2015 10:42 PM

John, is this update available immediately or are they still rolling it out?

conor1123 05-28-2015 11:24 AM

Noticed that flat foot is only available for the sports package models, is this true for launch control also?

visconti 05-28-2015 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conor1123 (Post 3211533)
Noticed that flat foot is only available for the sports package models, is this true for launch control also?

Yes, only for sport models, but launch control has been working on both.

Has something to do with the clutch switch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 3211037)
John, is this update available immediately or are they still rolling it out?

It's available immediately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns (Post 3211035)
I've sent you pm and email, please respond.:tiphat:

I sent you a email this morning!

John

scope22 05-29-2015 10:48 PM

Can someone confirm that they can correct Rev matching after swapping differential gears?

visconti 05-29-2015 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 3213325)
Can someone confirm that they can correct Rev matching after swapping differential gears?


Yes, have done this for a few cars


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BGTV8 05-30-2015 12:51 AM

I have a load cell in the gear-lever of my sequential gear box (which will go into the Z34 at some stage) ... can I use this to trigger ignition/fuel cut so I can change up without lifting off the throttle ?? Is there any way I can feed this signal into the OEM ECU and EcuTek manage fuel/ignition cut

I was thinking I'd need Motec/Haltech for flat-shift ..........

visconti 05-30-2015 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3213373)
I have a load cell in the gear-lever of my sequential gear box (which will go into the Z34 at some stage) ... can I use this to trigger ignition/fuel cut so I can change up without lifting off the throttle ?? Is there any way I can feed this signal into the OEM ECU and EcuTek manage fuel/ignition cut

I was thinking I'd need Motec/Haltech for flat-shift ..........


Email me, I'm sure we can figure something out


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Elmo370z 05-30-2015 01:22 PM

Any qualified tuners in the tampa area?

Jsmith7861 05-31-2015 01:35 AM

After reading this thread, I am insanely excited to get home and get the Z finished up. As I said in the other thread Visconti, do you know of any tuners in the VA area through you? Or do you just make the trip? I am currently deployed, but whenever I get back I decided I will be using Ecutek instead of Uprev.

Elmo370z 05-31-2015 09:34 AM

I'm interested as well

visconti 05-31-2015 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsmith7861 (Post 3214136)
After reading this thread, I am insanely excited to get home and get the Z finished up. As I said in the other thread Visconti, do you know of any tuners in the VA area through you? Or do you just make the trip? I am currently deployed, but whenever I get back I decided I will be using Ecutek instead of Uprev.

Pureautomotive is one of our dealers - we make trips there and tune out of their shop

John

Japanjay 05-31-2015 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3207157)
Ecutek is always accepting qualified tuners.

What I can tell you is I've been doing this type of Nissan tuning with ecutek on GTR for several years, a lot of the stuff that's in this software is due to my Involvement behind the scenes... Any skilled tuner can pick up this suite and tune your car but it's going to take a while for them to get a handle on the very advanced custom map stuff that some of us have been using on a daily basis for years.

I do make trips, need my expenses covered and some money in my pocket to make it worth it.. The more cars you have the cheaper it'll be per car.

I'm defiantly down to make a trip

John


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Shoot me a PM on cost of software per car, group of 5, max you can get done in a day, extra costs for your time. I might be able to get around 5 that would be interested in this.

Elmo370z 06-01-2015 11:37 PM

HOw would i go about getting Ecu Race Rom, besides having to flying you to florida and paying you on top of that?

nismonster 06-03-2015 09:02 AM

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Hi Guys, wanted to share; I contacted EcuTek about if the phase 2 rom can adjust the SRM so that different gears (namely 4.08) can use SRM with full compatibility -- ie. no CEL after 100 mph and exact rev matching on downshifts.

According to an EcuTek rep, this is possible. He attached an image file that I'm guessing is the settings to plug into the ROM interface.

Here's the exact email he sent me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EcuTek Rep
Upon further research and speaking to one of our development guys this has been done by one of our dealers in Japan, I have found a map in the phase 2 software that corrects the gear ratios (see attached screenshot) so to confirm, this can be done and has been done.

As excited as I am about this, I will probably wait for someone else to be the guinea pig. Let me know if anyone with SRM and 4.08 gears has used this rom to adjust these settings before.

visconti 06-03-2015 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismonster (Post 3217611)
Hi Guys, wanted to share; I contacted EcuTek about if the phase 2 rom can adjust the SRM so that different gears (namely 4.08) can use SRM with full compatibility -- ie. no CEL after 100 mph and exact rev matching on downshifts.

According to an EcuTek rep, this is possible. He attached an image file that I'm guessing is the settings to plug into the ROM interface.

Here's the exact email he sent me:



As excited as I am about this, I will probably wait for someone else to be the guinea pig. Let me know if anyone with SRM and 4.08 gears has used this rom to adjust these settings before.

It's been in the software for over a year now

I've personally have done this on a few cars, and it 100% works.




John

gbrettin 06-03-2015 03:56 PM

Well, I think I know what my next purchase is... :)


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