Mile high tuners

TopgunZ · 04-29-2015, 03:20 PM

So I don't have the tuner version yet a pro-tuner can still create maps, but not me? It is not locked and it was a custom map.

So can I access what I need to for a basic tune?

BlackZeda · 04-29-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

The Standard version only allows you to manage the map file (i.e. flahsh/re-flash). The tuner version will allow you to modify the actual map file parameters. The base file you received from Sasha was locked and you wouldn't have been able to modify that one anyway. Depending on the tuner you used for your custom tune the map file might or might not be locked. If your tuner is a 'Pro-tuner' with UpRev then their package allows then to adjust some tables that aren't available in the basic tuner version.

This is evident in that the estimate that I received is different than any packages I see on the Uprev website, which of course includes the actual work for the install and tuning. I am also having the GT MAFs installed at the same time.

JDM-JUNKIE · 04-30-2015, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

So I don't have the tuner version yet a pro-tuner can still create maps, but not me? It is not locked and it was a custom map.

So can I access what I need to for a basic tune?

Check the page I read the other day: Osiris - Standard

Based on the info. there it looks like the Standard product comes with one base tune and a license for 3 e-tunes that expire within a year, but these "e-tunes" are not transferable... So if you bought this used, you don't get any of the e-tunes without buying a new license from them.

It sounds like this products is very basic, and the e-tunes are just files you download yourself online after your upgrade your car and select some options from a menu, but I could be wrong. That's just how it reads to me- but it seems pretty clear that the standard model isn't really tune-able, as in you can't take it to a tuner and have custom maps rewritten and saved.

Here's their contact info. 512-821-9848 or email sales@uprev.com

But be careful from their site it sounds like they will try to sell you a subscription for some "e-tunes" and also state they charge $100- for tech support...

If I were you I would sell this system ASAP-

jwick · 04-30-2015, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM-JUNKIE

Check the page I read the other day: Osiris - Standard

Based on the info. there it looks like the Standard product comes with one base tune and a license for 3 e-tunes that expire within a year, but these "e-tunes" are not transferable... So if you bought this used, you don't get any of the e-tunes without buying a new license from them.

It sounds like this products is very basic, and the e-tunes are just files you download yourself online after your upgrade your car and select some options from a menu, but I could be wrong. That's just how it reads to me- but it seems pretty clear that the standard model isn't really tune-able, as in you can't take it to a tuner and have custom maps rewritten and saved.

Here's their contact info. 512-821-9848 or email sales@uprev.com

But be careful from their site it sounds like they will try to sell you a subscription for some "e-tunes" and also state they charge $100- for tech support...

If I were you I would sell this system ASAP-

Not really how it works. You buy a standard license and cable then you can upload a tune as many times as you want. The e-tune is where you tell them your mods, they build the tune map, email it to you and you upload it at home. If you have an uprev tuner then you would have them tune the map and you wouldn't need the e-tune at all. The standard cable is intended to allow you to use cipher to check/clear codes and upload tunes. It is not what you would use to tune. If you want to tune you would upgrade to the tuner cable. That would open up the ability to build your own map or if your tuner doesn't lock their maps to modify your tune map.

UpRev is still the primary tuning software for our platform. Ecutek is the only other option and it currently does not allow self tuning.

JDM-JUNKIE · 04-30-2015, 02:32 AM

Nobody uses Turbo XS/UTEC, GReddy, or HKS anymore? Sorry I've been living overseas the past 3.5 years, but before all the 350z and G35 guys including myself were using mostly UTEC and GReddy. Before two days ago I'd never heard of UpREV and frankly their license fess and support fees rub me the wrong way... I really hope they aren't the dominate engine management for the 370z.

Red__Zed · 04-30-2015, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM-JUNKIE

Nobody uses Turbo XS/UTEC, GReddy, or HKS anymore? Sorry I've been living overseas the past 3.5 years, but before all the 350z and G35 guys including myself were using mostly UTEC and GReddy. Before two days ago I'd never heard of UpREV and frankly their license fess and support fees rub me the wrong way... I really hope they aren't the dominate engine management for the 370z.

Osiris does with a reflash things that previously required piggybacking or a standalone EMS.

jwick · 04-30-2015, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM-JUNKIE

Nobody uses Turbo XS/UTEC, GReddy, or HKS anymore? Sorry I've been living overseas the past 3.5 years, but before all the 350z and G35 guys including myself were using mostly UTEC and GReddy. Before two days ago I'd never heard of UpREV and frankly their license fess and support fees rub me the wrong way... I really hope they aren't the dominate engine management for the 370z.

It's UpRev or Ecutek unless you want to go full standalone. UpRev is the only tuning software that allows end user tuning. Ecutek allows protuner only.

If you can tune yourself then with UpRev all you need is the tuner version cable and a tuner license. Last I checked that was $700 all in.

TopgunZ · 04-30-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM-JUNKIE

Nobody uses Turbo XS/UTEC, GReddy, or HKS anymore? Sorry I've been living overseas the past 3.5 years, but before all the 350z and G35 guys including myself were using mostly UTEC and GReddy. Before two days ago I'd never heard of UpREV and frankly their license fess and support fees rub me the wrong way... I really hope they aren't the dominate engine management for the 370z.

In the 350 world, Turbo xs Utec is very old DOS based tuning software that is not very favorable anymore. Everybody uses Haltech now and it is a badass system. I was really hoping they would jump on the VHR platform but from what I heard they didn't due to the VVEL.

And yes, Uprev is the dominate em for the VHR. We will see what Ecutek will do but that hasn't been out long and is still looking for traction.

JDM-JUNKIE · 04-30-2015, 09:45 PM

Thanks for the info. guys-

Seems like I'm out of the mainstream thinking for the Z, most likely when I get far enough on my build and have my turbo (I'm thinking single this time) picked out I'll just ask Sam what system he wants to tune with. Either that or I'll look into what the guys are using in Japan.

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JDM-JUNKIE Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 140 Drives: Past:NSX, S15, G35TT Rep Power: 10	Nobody uses Turbo XS/UTEC, GReddy, or HKS anymore? Sorry I've been living overseas the past 3.5 years, but before all the 350z and G35 guys including myself were using mostly UTEC and GReddy. Before two days ago I'd never heard of UpREV and frankly their license fess and support fees rub me the wrong way... I really hope they aren't the dominate engine management for the 370z.